Man united are in a worse position and have been for 10 years.

United are a huge mess to the very core of the club. The focus isn’t on winning it’s about making money. They have appointed yes men to key positions like CEO and director of football who have no experience in the job. Technical Director Darren Fletcher was in the dug out at times last year, what’s that about?

The attitude of the squad absolutely stinks, they have no fight in them. Primadonnas like Fernandes sulking and being petulant in big games (Liverpool last year, City on Sunday). They have no backbone. They need Ratcliffe to come in and install a proper footballing set up upstairs and to modernise the thoroughly outdated training ground. Even then, it’ll take years for them to catch up. They’re 5 years away from being genuinely competitive (and I don’t mean using a new manager bounce to get top 4 now and again).

Chelsea are in a much much bigger mess than people realise. It’s not just that they’ve spunked over a billion quid on talent, they’ve only bought kids. Raheem Sterling is one of their most senior players and he’s only 28. Not to mention he’s hardly a beacon of mental fortitude. When United used kids in 94 onwards, the squad was still packed with experienced pros to help guide them. Schmeichel, Irwin, Bruce, Robson, Cantona, to name just a few. Chelsea needs more players with experience to help them on the pitch but that means spending more money.

The ownership seems blindly insistent that either the players will become world beaters or they’ll get their money back in sales and will avoid FFP through clever accounting tricks. This only works if they regularly get into the Champions League which looks miles away right now.

I genuinely think there is a strong possibility of Chelsea doing a Leeds and getting so fucked by FFP it’ll take years to recover. The owners have tried to shake up established norms that are established for a reason. They’ve totally screwed the pooch.

In summary both clubs are in a bad bad way but United are much worse. If the reforms Ratcliffe attempts don’t come off they’re looking at Liverpool esque years in the wilderness.

Chelsea by contrast can save themselves by bringing in some more experienced heads on the field but it’s already an uphill task to turn around a naive and I experienced dressing room.

Chelsea are nothing like United. Bias aside, our underlying stats and the eye test show that we are very unlucky to be as low as we are. We are clearly a striker away from flying up the table and we still have 8 or 9 first steamers injured. It’s night and day between United and Chelsea

Chelsea definitely seem like the better bet in the medium term.

If they can let Pochettino do his thing and find a sporting director who works well with both him and Boehly, they have a core of great young players and can focus on recruiting well in a handful of key positions.

United are a tangled mess from top to bottom but in the long run probably have more commercial clout if the ownership changes.

United. And its not even close. Keyword: Glazera

It’s like asking if shitting bcoz of diarrhea is better or incoming poo from another stomach disorder is worse.

Chelsea’s arrogant owners (8 yr contracts & other bad decisions despite being given contrary advice), are leading the club to a future shit condition, one that ManU is already in and doesn’t show signs of improving.

So, in essence, both of them will be shitting horrendously in the future. Thus OP’s question can be rephrased as “who would you rather be right now”?

To which, the answer is clearly Chelsea.

Chelsea look like they’re almost starting to work together, they’ve felt like they’re not sure if they can trust their decisions previously but now they’re doing so.

United on the other hand, look like a bunch of mercenaries pulled together and being expected to play even though they’ve already been paid, instead of getting paid after the job is done.

Chelsea has hope for this season man utd doesn’t have that that’s the diffrence

“Glaziers out 😭😭😭” Some of these idiots even compare them to Mike Ashley. They have spent 400,000,000+ in the last couple of years on players. Personally, I am hugely enjoying the downfall of both

United are in a worse position. Because they have few young, hungry, talented players, showing potential. The players they have bought for at least 10 years are not the best or even close to what they need. Hopefully Hojlund comes good in the next few years, Garnacho is too arrogant, they seem to buy a lot of players that believe their work is done once they arrive at Old Trafford. Chelsea have a melting pot of talent, once Poch figures out his best 11, they’ll be a good team, with players hungry behind them fighting for position.

Man utd Chelsea will change. Based on what’s been happening since SAF retired, man utd won’t change.

United!

At least Chelsea’s owners are willing to spend money. Now granted it’s on shit players, but they are at least giving the manager the resources to win.

In a timeline where Chelsea face the consequences of their actions at any point ever, Chelsea. In reality, United.

For context: despise both.

Man United obviously, just look back at the players these two clubs signed, It will make you feel that the new players of Man United makes you unable to see any hope of getting better. Except for Casemiro, there is no signing that you feel is worth it. Antony for 100 million, Højlund for 85 million and we need Mount for? Chelsea spent the same amount of money to buy Enzo and we only have Antony?

Sorry, I’m really pessimistic right now, but this is indeed affected by the current situation.

United for sure. There clearly is and has been a toxic environment there for many years. Chelsea hasn’t been rainbows but they have a proven manager now that seems to be making change