China is so good at genocide that it can prevent any refugee outflows to neighboring Turkic Muslim countries and hide all video evidence in a day and age where every person has a video camera in their pocket.
China is so bad at genocide that its ingenious schemes can be foiled by one plucky German religious zealot and an Australian think tank funded by Raytheon.
It’s so good at hiding a genocide that they can hide a genocide in a part of the country where you can freely travel to as a tourist, where you can see thousands of videos of on YouTube
Is that entirely accurate? I’ve seen some videos online that you need to get permission from the government (some kind of visa) to travel to Tibet and Xinjiang autonomous region.
I could be wrong or not have the full picture, I’d imagine if that’s the case though, it’s to prevent foreign agents from entering the regions to foment unrest.
It’s just a travel document it’s very easy to get one. Just like getting a tourist visa anywhere else but you have to check in a bit more often. This is also not exclusive to Xinjiang or Tibet.
It is exclusive to Tibet compared to the rest of China, where foreigners can travel freely with just a visa. In Tibet AR (but not Tibetan autonomous counties in other provinces) foreigners need to travel with a group and special permits.
Chinese citizens travel freely all over except HK and Macau as far as I know, they need permits to go there.
I think that’s undercut somewhat by the fact that Palestinians have increased their population despite being genocided by Israel. IMO it’s also necessary to look at all the indicators of welfare for Uyghur people like life expectancy, literacy, income, access to healthcare, etc, and how they’ve all steadily improved
To be fair on the population stat, even the most war hawk minds admit that the re-education camps have closed down now and that its no longer ongoing. With China if its being alleged that they have carried out a genocide, you would look at population numbers; A genocide by definition would significantly reduce the amount of people.
Like we see with Palestine, the genocide did not start until recently, only the precursor too it (ethnic cleansing, ghettoization, devaluing of life, apartheid etc) but it would be fair to say the actual genocide (the systematic mass killing) of them has just begun. If its successful or not will be determined by the amount of people killed and if they manage to remove the ethnicity from Gaza entirely, which is the goal.
China is so good at genocide that it can prevent any refugee outflows to neighboring Turkic Muslim countries and hide all video evidence in a day and age where every person has a video camera in their pocket.
China is so bad at genocide that its ingenious schemes can be foiled by one plucky German religious zealot and an Australian think tank funded by Raytheon.
It’s so good at hiding a genocide that they can hide a genocide in a part of the country where you can freely travel to as a tourist, where you can see thousands of videos of on YouTube
Is that entirely accurate? I’ve seen some videos online that you need to get permission from the government (some kind of visa) to travel to Tibet and Xinjiang autonomous region.
I could be wrong or not have the full picture, I’d imagine if that’s the case though, it’s to prevent foreign agents from entering the regions to foment unrest.
Tibet is stricter but you can freely go to Xinjiang. There are places you need a permit for, for example some highways, but that’s not all too weird.
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I need permission from the government (exactly a visa) to go see the Grand Canyon
It’s just a travel document it’s very easy to get one. Just like getting a tourist visa anywhere else but you have to check in a bit more often. This is also not exclusive to Xinjiang or Tibet.
It is exclusive to Tibet compared to the rest of China, where foreigners can travel freely with just a visa. In Tibet AR (but not Tibetan autonomous counties in other provinces) foreigners need to travel with a group and special permits.
Chinese citizens travel freely all over except HK and Macau as far as I know, they need permits to go there.
so bad at genocide the UN census of uyghur populations in genocided areas actually increased by millions in the time frames alleged
I think that’s undercut somewhat by the fact that Palestinians have increased their population despite being genocided by Israel. IMO it’s also necessary to look at all the indicators of welfare for Uyghur people like life expectancy, literacy, income, access to healthcare, etc, and how they’ve all steadily improved
To be fair on the population stat, even the most war hawk minds admit that the re-education camps have closed down now and that its no longer ongoing. With China if its being alleged that they have carried out a genocide, you would look at population numbers; A genocide by definition would significantly reduce the amount of people.
Like we see with Palestine, the genocide did not start until recently, only the precursor too it (ethnic cleansing, ghettoization, devaluing of life, apartheid etc) but it would be fair to say the actual genocide (the systematic mass killing) of them has just begun. If its successful or not will be determined by the amount of people killed and if they manage to remove the ethnicity from Gaza entirely, which is the goal.
Schrödinger’s China