I can’t believe that’s still a thing. I haven’t been bombed by those in awhile.

Not that I have seen outside of China. You’d be better off stating your general area and what EVs you are interested in. Last I heard Polestar 2 has Android Automotive in USA. But going forward as more EVs have it the next question is how vanilla is it or did the EV maker some how make it worse?

I have watched videos from dealerships up in Canada that spend a lot of effort reviewing EVs. Live streams with q&a.

Android Automotive goes mainstream: A review of GM’s new infotainment system
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/01/android-automotive-goes-mainstream-a-review-of-gms-new-infotainment-system/

Google says that if you’re streaming music, caching the incoming bits can end up writing 50MB of data to the eMMC every minute, so even if you aren’t constantly installing apps, flash wear is a major concern. Google says that with 16GB in daily writes and 16GB of free space, you would have total storage death in 10 years (and storage problems earlier than that). The Yukon ships with around 38GB of free space, so you should be fine for a while.

Any salesmen you deal with must appreciate your business.

Golf clap.

Some random searching…

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/retooling-auto-plants-evs-will-cost-billions-biden-wants-help-2021-11-17/
GM said (2021) it can save up to $15 billion by 2030, and even more after that, by re-purposing its factories and retraining its current workforce, rather than follow rivals such as Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) and build new factories in Southern and Western states.

Build Back Better would also allocate $3.5 billion for converting U.S. factories for production of electrified or fuel cell vehicles, and revive incentives that could generate $3.7 billion for automotive communities by 2031.

Auto manufacturers could also benefit from $3 billion allocated to a Department of Energy Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/02/general-motors-key-takeaways-from-gms-q4-results-and-2022-guidance.html
Barra, among other things, announced GM is pulling ahead “significant investment” from the second half of the decade into a $35 billion investment plan in electric and autonomous vehicles by 2025. (Or 2035 depending on which article)

She said the company is targeting to sell 400,000 EVs in North American through 2023.

https://news.gm.com/newsroom.detail.html/Pages/news/us/en/2021/jun/0616-gm.html
General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) announced today it will increase its EV and AV investments from 2020 through 2025 to $35 billion, representing a 75 percent increase from its initial commitment announced prior to the pandemic.

GM is targeting annual global EV sales of more than 1 million by 2025

https://investor.gm.com/news-releases/news-release-details/gm-delivers-year-firsts
General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) and its dealers delivered 2.2 million vehicles in the U.S. in 2022

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/17/23464509/general-motors-ev-profit-1-million-annual-2025
But by 2025, the cash burning will officially cease, as the company projects its EV program will be “solidly profitable” by then.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/09/12/auto-industry-electric-car-ev-revolution/
General Motors this year pledged to spend $7 billion — its largest investment ever — on four Michigan manufacturing sites for battery cells and electric vehicles. It’s also making big investments in EV and battery factories in Ohio, Tennessee, Canada and Mexico.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-reports-record-revenue-for-2022-with-1-31-million-evs-sold/
This brings Tesla’s total deliveries in 2022 to 1.31 million cars, which is a record high for the brand and 40% growth year-over-year, but also just short of its own goal of 1.4 million deliveries.

Investors weren’t super happy with the price cuts, but Elon Musk posited that more affordable Teslas is a good thing.

“It’s always been our goal to make cars affordable to as many people as possible so I’m glad that we’re able to do so.” - Elon

The automaker reports that the average sale price of a Tesla has halved between 2017 and 2022 and will likely continue to fall. That’s partially due to price drops, but mostly thanks to the less expensive Models 3 and Y now making up the lion’s share of Tesla’s production and deliveries. In 2018, they accounted for just over half of Tesla’s 254,530 sales; today they’re around 95% of the 1.31 million Tesla cars sold in 2022.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/09/12/auto-industry-electric-car-ev-revolution/
When Rivian bought the plant, it took the unusual step of polishing the concrete floors throughout the 3 million-square-foot building, which Steve Evans, a construction coordinator who began working there as a welder for Mitsubishi, initially thought was nuts.

“I thought, why are we polishing the concrete?” he said. Later, he realized that the step “creates an environment that’s inviting. And people want to come here.”

Why do motorcycle or electric motor cycle/scooter don’t have dual motor option even though dual motor e-bike exist?

Price.

I put my ideas based on dual motor configuration for e bike where each motor have it’s own controller and connected on 1 throttle. Is there a reason why this might not work?

They make controllers designed for dual motors that would work better. Sometimes two controllers play well together but not always.

2 different motors without a self learning dual motor controller complicates things. You’d be better off with 2 identical motors if you go the 2 controller route.

Or because BYD is a company that likes to make money.

If The United States Government wanted Amercians buying EVs next week, then this week they could drop the 30% markup on BYD EVs.

In the meantime BYD is doing what they do, making money, by selling EVs to the entire world. (Except USA)

LFP is newer than NMC. Legacy auto makers are still catching up. They are still building factories for NMC with announcements of plans for LFP factories.

ElevenEs opens Europe’s first LFP battery cell facility to supercharge electric vehicle production
https://www.innoenergy.com/news-events/elevenes-opens-europes-first-lfp-battery-cell-facility-to-supercharge-electric-vehicle-production/

Then there’s the waiting game they are still playing.

Volkswagen’s Long-term, High-Manganese Cathode Strategy
https://www.idtechex.com/en/research-article/volkswagens-long-term-high-manganese-cathode-strategy/23431

Then there’s LMFP.
https://electrek.co/2023/06/06/gotion-unveils-lmfp-ev-battery-it-says-can-deliver-1000-km-per-single-charge-for-a-lower-price/#more-303290

Key word is could, but we’re rooting for Gotion. The battery developer recently unveiled its new LMFP battery chemistry, capable of achieving an energy density of 240 Wh/kg. For comparison, Gotion says the energy density of current LFP batteries tops out right around 190 Wh/kg.

LMFP batteries are not a new concept, but issues like low conductivity and energy density have held the technology back in the past, at least for EV applications. However, Gotion believes its new batteries have reached performance parity with NMC cells, but at a lower cost that is also safer.

Production is not very close, so we must keep our guard up (we’ve been hurt before), but Gotion has shared it expects the Astroinno LMFP to enter mass production as early at Q2 2024 at two of the company’s plans in the Anhui province of China. According to Cheng, they have already passed necessary safety tests.

I can buy solar panels and batteries. I can’t buy a gas station or oil refinery or an oil drill…

Over the next 10 years energy prices are going to go up and then down. Once electricity prices start going down, possibly for the last time in history, gas prices will keep going up.

What’s going to happen is similar to what you see right now where energy cost way more in California vs in Maryland. But once things get rolling there’s going to be fewer gas stations, fewer auto shops, fewer Jiffy lubes, fewer auto parts stores, fewer factories making nuts and bolts, etc. This will lead to gas prices going up as usage is scaled down.

When you have solar panels and batteries that will last 20 years a pop… how is a war in Europe or the Middle East going to raise the price of electricity coming from solar? How is Niger not meeting its quota going to affect the global market rate of solar generated electricity?

At some point green energy is going to being running full steam ahead. There will be plenty of capacity.

Trust me, when I was pricing like maybe 2-3 years ago ebikes still had high prices. Even used. I just looked real quick and Trek starts at $3,500. The Rad version of the Lectric starts at $2,300. Moral of the story, I thought Ebikes cost too much. For me, I did not see a reason to buy something other than Lectric. Except I got parts for stupid cheap so I went that route but I still recommend Lectric as the standard to compare against. The price creep after Lectric happens really quick.

As far as service goes I recommend finding a good bike shop if you are not a bike person. Same with EVs and ICE cars. When I was putting mine together it didn’t take long to find one with nice people. For bike stuff. Finding someone that knows anything about the black magic that is electricity is another adventure.

By mid-century countries least dependent on fossil fuels will have a significant edge.

Significant edge is a vast understatement in my opinion.

They bought 6 ships awhile back. How many EV makers have their own shipping fleet? They are exporting now but my guess after a couple of sales they are going to increase exports to wherever they are selling. They don’t want to just drop a bunch of EVs into foreign markets. They want to grow them.

You can get a seat that has suspension in it. How well it works depends on price and your weight but if you find one that works it can be very helpful. Especially for certain hits.

When I started looking at ebikes I was like oh cool $10,000 ebike… but why? I started working my way down on price until I got to Lectric and stopped there.

I could be wrong here but I think a Dad and son started importing a Chinese model for a good price with good service. Seemed like a great option for people on the fence who want to try it out before they start dropping a lot more money. Aside from only being a grand it has a step thru frame which was important and enough youtube videos to answer most of my questions.

I ended up getting a deal on a motor and controller. Got a used bike and just used the batteries I use for my Ryobi 40 volt tools.

Last time I looked Lectric had the best bang for buck at $1,000. Not to use for your commute but just FYI if you’d think you’d want for not work commute.

https://lectricebikes.com/collections/xp-3-0-series

It cannot be understated how important electric

For the world. But yeah, Africa is interesting to watch.

Makes a person feel like a kid again

Yup. Ebikes are awesome.

I think China bought into some of those brands when they were getting into making ICE. Then Li-Ion batteries came along and China was “hold my beer”.

Saudi is like China in that they are more interested in the industry than the company. Saudi is also doing other things with green energy too.

Sure, China would love to make and sell cars in USA but since the trade war I think they are OK with building factories in other countries like Mexico and just, you know, selling EVs to the whole world (except USA).

I am going to charge for how long my car tells me is best

How is that different than charging for 15 minutes?

I don’t see governments finding it too worthwhile to kneecap their own energy transition just to protect a couple thousand jobs that can be retrained into other industries anyway.

Happening in real time right now in the USA after decades and decades of blocking green energy and offshoring everything. Now, it’s all about blocking specifically China.

Ebikes have been a game changer for old people.

Plenty of people can’t ride bikes because of hills and health. Most people don’t want to show up drenched in sweat and out of breath.

Ebikes and pedal assist are awesome. People can get out and about and get exercise. Or they can just cruise along and chit chat.

Ebikes aren’t supposed to replace EVs that have a climate controlled interior.