bacteria, fungus, plants, protozoa, and (arguably) viruses are all alive, too. bed bugs. rattlesnakes. being alive isn’t actually that special, nor a reason, in itself, to refrain from eating or killing that thing.

i know but there is definitely a double entendre in there.

guilt-framed

you shouldn’t treat animals like smartphones, either. you treat different things differently.

they weren’t things. treating them like things is part of what made that wrong.

and treating animals like people is also wrong.

the owid link you provided relies on poore-nemecek 2018, which i find to be problematic. do you have another study which supports your claim, but doesn’t rely on combining LCA studies conducted with disparate methodologies?

every human being is actually something and not someone

no, and this makes no sense

didn’t you try the directory I linked?

someone needs to do a new downfall re-sub

it’s slavery. no need to soften it

https://matrixrooms.info/

yea. I don’t use fluffy chat, I just use element, but it’s definitely searchable. there’s also a directory… let me dig it up

https://matrix.to/#%2F!GPQBPHOaOHUswTPQla%3Amatrix.org%3Fvia=mozilla.org&via=matrix.org&via=tchncs.de

we use matrix

the one that talks shit on so-called third parties is basically all conjecture and poorly interpreted academics.

eating meat doesn’t cause people in the meat industry to do anything. they get to choose what they do.

if I died today there is no reason for me to believe any industry would get smaller as a result, and I would of course stop purchasing everything.

there are more vegans now more than ever, and more meat produced. being vegan doesn’t decrease the size of the industry.

not any group. nonhumans.

whether I do or not, the industry continues to grow.

it’s illogical to try to fly a plane like you are driving a car. different things are different and it is correct to treat them so.