The Focus RS pops from the factory, not a mod, and not fake anti-lag.

Carrera GTs also sat a bit new, and one we looked at was being sold for $385k with just under 1k miles, imagine a Carrera GT for $385k, then look at prices today.

Good, it wouldn’t have been in the spirit of the Vanquish to be mid engine supercar. You can’t just keep renaming supercars with other model names, Corvette did it with the C8, and that imo isn’t even a Corvette.

Maybe Ford knows something about a better alternative to EVs 👀 One can only hope

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/s/bzVl5RzKIH

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/s/bzVl5RzKIH

Can’t wait to see two of these at Cars & Coffee when they come out 👀 this thing is sexy!

I think the point is that they aren’t really testing showroom cars anymore. Then my own thoughts, are that weather, track conditions, tires, mods, driver add so many variables that you can’t really say what’s what just from looking at lap times. You need all the data.

I think what is really needed, are notes beside each time by an unbiased observer or official. They need to note track conditions, weather, car modifications, tires, driver, etc then we would be able to take data from each time and draw some conclusions. I know with some runs this data is available but most places just report the cars and the times.

There are still genuine experiences you can get. Anything with a true 6 speed and a clutch is going to be a good time. ZL1 1LE, Viper ACR, Shelby GT350R, even my RS is still very much a driver’s car. With thar said, I’m pretty sure all these cars aren’t being made anymore, but still great cars made after 2008 😋

I like Pobst Laguna Seca tests. It’s a pretty balanced track, also Road Atlanta is nice.

Even as a measure of a car’s true real world performance they seem to be tainted

The point is, it was supposed to be an accurate measurement of the car’s capabilities. Now it’s just disingenuous marketing.

When I saw the list of cars that were in front of the LP670-4 Super Veloce and Carrera GT I knew there has to be some HUGE differences in testing conditions. Tires, tunes, roll cages, weather, traffic, driver, these are things that could shave off 10-20 seconds.

Not only that I’m pretty sure some tests are done with traffic too 😂

That’s what I mean. People in these comments are saying it’s a good way to see how cars would act on real roads, but I don’t think so at all. If you can’t rely on times to be honest and fair for all cars, how could you begin to compare times at all?

Cars were a lot bigger of a deal back then. The Mustang was like a ground breaking new model, the market wasn’t so saturated like it is now, so every new model like that was a pretty big deal. Also the Ford GT I think launched around the same time, it was a big time to be into Ford

Which Cars & Coffee banned Mustangs and Chargers?