They’re gonna do it more, now that you said that.

Piccolo would not be making this argument. If anybody would it would be Turles there.

Americans value confident leeches, over insecure ones. That one is a leech is no shame to an American.

The climate catastrophe is caused by a hyper-reliance on fossil fuels & deliberately shitty transport infrastructure (i.e. the private automobile & it’s consequences), entirely for financial reasons; not just raw numbers of people.

You need people who can actually do work to take care of all the old people & sustain human society. “Less People” is not by-default “more sustainable” especially not if it happens all at once; that was in fact a huge problem with cyclical famines & political turmoil in the days before mechanized agriculture.

If some asshole went around raiding hamlets for plunder, or whatever reason, yeah that would mean fewer mouths to feed in that particular area, but it also means fewer hands to bring food to harvest. Which means other regions have to contribute larger proportions of their own food-stock to sustain the needed intake of urban centers. Which means that they have less food to eat for themselves, and less to replant for the next harvest. Which pushes people on the margins of the the agricultural economy into banditry to sustain themselves, which causes us to return to the beginning of our story.

Eventually this cycle of regional depopulation leading to productivity shortfalls, leading to further regional depopulation becomes self-reinforcing & before you know it you have a country-wide catastrophe on your hand & the total implosion of existing society.

Now we aren’t dependent on mass manual agriculture these days, so famine specifically is an unlikely cause of cyclical societal collapse, but the modern world still requires that a shitload of manual physical labor get done in order to maintain the basic infrastructure that gets everything from where it is, to where it needs to be in order for us to all not die. If you don’t have people to fill those positions, then that’s work that needs to get done, that isn’t being done.

Why should it?

That’s asinine, you’re treating periphery countries like they’re glorified breeding-stock for the developed world’s work-force.

Edit: To make my point more clear, the whole reason why developing nations have higher birthrates than developed ones is because they’re developing/underdeveloped. They lack access to contraceptives, and substantive access to women’s healthcare; and they also oftentimes have economies that still rely to some extent, or a large extent on non-mechanized smallholder, or subsistence agriculture. That, or they otherwise have social institutions that allow for, or require children to enter the workforce. This means that having children in those countries is often an economic boon to a family (because they can contribute to household incomes through work), and avoiding having them can be very difficult for women.

If you solve their problem of being underdeveloped, & hyper-exploited (which you should be doing if you’re a “queermunist”), then that means that they are likely also going to be in a position where they have declining birthrates because there will no longer be an object material incentive to have children, and women who don’t want to would be able to prevent it.

The idea of shoring up a declining population “through immigration” only works so long as you have an underdeveloped periphery of peoples who want to come flock to the West, or to developed nations in search of higher wages & a higher standard of living (or just avoiding Imperialist political meddling), rather than staying at home.

“It’s an acceptable loss.”

I thought that this was gonna be a different joke, I’m not gonna lie.

No, but he isn’t talking to them.

You are a bundle of atoms destined to lose cohesion, revel in the beauty of it.

I don’t see beauty in any of it though. It’s mostly ugly, and gross.

Yes you can have machines tell you what’s wrong, but they cannot reason why a problem exists and how to fix it.

This is also true of a human worker though. That’s why the profession of “doctor” exists. The question is, why couldn’t a robot be made to perform maintenance on other robots?

God is a Dwarf Fortress player.

That title. :(

Gloria de la Cruz

Lmao, the dude does not even know who the top ticket candidate of the PSL is.

I am not a populist or a tailist,

Ah, so you’re an Ultra then? I suspected as much.

Until we smash imperialism these revolutionary circumstances will not arise, and as such I am a revolutionary defeatist in our context. We need to create the conditions.

I agree with the diagnosis, but not the precise treatment plan. A Socialist revolution has to be a democratic one as well. It has to be democratic, and it has to be majoritarian, because it has to actually provide a material benefit to the majority of workers which it will have to rely on for it to actually survive & triumph against the forces of reaction. If it can’t do this, it will be consumed utterly, as happened to the Afghan Socialist government, and the Spaniards before them.

Decolonial theory is not a good practical fit for the United States because it is not a majority black/indigenous country, nor is it one which is surrounded by hostile indigenous nations which could potentially collapse it were they to work in concert to do so.

The difference between Israel & America is that America actually achieved what it intended to do, and we all have to work in the aftermath of that. You can’t rewind the historical record, you can only keep going forward as new events & opportunities make themselves apparent.

The best solution to my mind, is to build a multiracial coalition of the working class at home who understand & are committed to Marxist-Leninist principles & who can make a move for power when revolutionary opportunities arise; and simultaneously support national-liberation movements & anti-imperialism abroad in order to create those revolutionary conditions.

The part we seem to disagree on is the middle section.

Let me ask you a very basic question. Do you think that it is necessary to mobilize a majority coalition; that is to say a coalition that represents the interests of the numerical majority of the population, in order to actually materialize a revolution from the lower classes?

If not, I think I see where our points of disagreement come from.

Stalin’s stance on Israel was horrible and one of his biggest mistakes

True, but his position on Bundism was correct.

I’m not saying they’re directly saying it (although they often do) I’m saying that it’s what they do in practice. If a communist organization prioritizes labor politics in a settler colonialist structure they end up with incorrect theory – “Israeli and Palestinian working class unite!”

The present internal situation of the United States is not comparable to the present state of the Israel-Palestine conflict. This is indisputable material fact. The United States is not levelling downtown Chicago to make room for dogshit white eurobeat clubs.

A white working class person will be excused from much of this barbarity at their expense, allowed to work IT while black people clean the toilets.

I spent this last Saturday degreasing an industrial molding machine alongside my Burmese co-workers, one of whom is my boss now. You have an insane, and materially incorrect politics.

If you’re going to call yourself “Stalinist Steve” you should actually fuckin’ read his work, dude.

This is literally a scene from Kaiji.