Let’s see.

Should have had a penalty against arsenal for rugby tackle on Hojlund by Gabriel.

Should have had a penalty against spurs for handball.

Harry Maguire ‘offside’ call against Fulham.

Ludicrous penalty given to city against United at Old Trafford .

Absolutely dominated against Luton, should have been 3 or 4 nil if the strikers, Hojlund, Garnacho and Rashford had converted the easy chances.

As I said it works both ways and balances out. I agree that united have been poor, but they deserve the wins they got. They struggled against Sheffield, Forest, and Burnley etc… but overall deserved the win. If they can turn it around and get some results against the more difficult up and coming fixtures their season could get back on track

Last season they finished 3rd, won the league Cup and got to the FA Cup final. I just think it’s not so clear cut as everyone is making out that 10th place Chelsea who had an abysmal season last year are suddenly better.

I don’t agree, i think their position reflects where they are in this moment. You could definitely also make the argument that they have been unlucky in many games as well.

Not a single person has said united. I am not saying united are great or anything, but Chelsea have been absolutely wank this season and last. They have had 1 good game, they were poor against 9 man spurs and struggled to break them down. United have been dismal but nonetheless have kept within touching distance. If they can get some form and some key players back lile Martinez and Shaw it could be an OK season.