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I thought this is the last thing I would touch on post last night’s match but saw a very interesting comment on the post match the thread yesterday along the lines of “Can’t wait for the comments wanting Trossard to start now that he’s scored a goal as a sub”
I always feel like Trossard gets judged to a much harsher standard by this sub, mostly because they were irritated that a section of fans wanted him to start over Kai Havertz, who is Mikel’d darling.
The narrative on Trossard is only a super sub is false according to me. He’s started 2 games this season. One, he shat the bed and in the other one he was playing with an injury. 2 bad halves doesn’t mean that you’re not a good starter. I get that he doesn’t stretch the defence the way Gabi Martinelli does or he doesn’t offer the same defensive output as Kai but on the ball, Trossard is far, far superior to Havertz. He’s also the best ball striker in the team.
People were convinced that Havertz was a shit striker and we were going to transform into a legendary LCM when he was signed. Multiple threads on how he would be great for that position. Havertz came in, couldn’t make any sort of impact at the LCM position except some duels defensively and people are now convinced he should be our starting CF over Jesus based on 2 substitute appearances where he’s provided an aerial threat, that’s it.
Going by the same logic Havertz should be a super sub as well? Except better physical attributes what does Havertz actually offer over Trossard? Trossard is a better passer, dribbler and far superior finisher.
People have so much patience for the likes of Kai Havertz and Eddie Nketiah (who I really like) but if Trossard has a bad game it’s all look this is why he doesn’t start. Havertz and Eddie are allowed bad patches, time to adjust to the team because Arteta seems to favour them but Trossard doesn’t get nearly the same patience from the fans. True gooners keep on talking about “back your team”, doesn’t seem to be applicable for all players tho.
The thing with Leo is that he feels warm all the time. It’s very very useful to have a player who looks sharp no matter what minute they appear on, and if he starts you lose the ability to have that off the bench.
It’s probably a harsh way to view him but that is such a valuable asset which isn’t really a trait that’s prevalent with most of our subs, a lot of them take a while to get into a game whereas his impact is basically always instant, particularly against a tiring full back.
If he starts I’d much prefer him to be in the middle, which is an issue as there’s a lot of competition in there, but as a sub off the bench he’s superb in whatever role he comes on in.
Agreed. Trossard had 9 assists in 11 starts for us in the league last season. Really don’t get it when people say he only works when he comes on as sub.