Hello World,

Today, after careful consideration and evaluation of recent events, we have decided to defederate from Lemmygrad.

Regrettably, we have observed a significant increase in hate speech and calls to violence originating from the Lemmygrad instance. Due to the severity of the posts and comments, we are not waiting for the next Lemmy update that will allow users to block instances.

At Lemmy.world, we have always strived to foster an inclusive and welcoming user environment. However, recent posts and comments from Lemmygrad have clearly violated our server rules and, more importantly, our core values. We firmly believe that hate speech and incitement of violence have no place in our community, regardless of personal beliefs or affiliations.

As always, we encourage all users to report any content they deem inappropriate or harmful. No matter one’s stance in any conflict, Lemmy.world will always take immediate action to remove and ban any posts or comments that incite violence or propagate hatred.

We encourage everyone to continue engaging in discussions within the boundaries of respect and understanding. As we move forward with this decision, we remain committed to providing all community members with a safe and welcoming space. We appreciate your continued support and cooperation in upholding our shared principles.

Thank you,

The Lemmy.World Team

    • lwadmin@lemmy.worldOPM
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      1 year ago

      Most of their communities were blocked since months, that’s why you didn’t see much of them.

      • smoothbrain coldtakes@lemmy.ca
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        I’m just surprised overall because most other major instances defederated from them weeks or months ago, along with Hexbear and/or Exploding Heads. .ca has been defederated with those probably for at least two months now.

        • Candelestine@lemmy.world
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          The administration of this Instance has a moderate lean towards not defederating in general, they have to be pushed in general. I would describe LW as a free speech leaning Instance, within the Lemmy environment.

          Naturally the topic is very divisive overall and tends to draw heated arguments no matter what position is taken. Free speech absolutists find it downright draconian. I imagine being on Beehaw for longer than five minutes might reduce them to ash, I’m not sure.

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            LW has some communities which are quite non-freespeech, with rules like “we can remove and ban anything against the rules or not” (see !world), and some which use their rules arbitrarily as excuses for removing content that doesn’t match their ideology (see !politicalmemes).

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            The administration of this Instance has a moderate lean towards not defederating in general, they have to be pushed in general. I would describe LW as a free speech leaning Instance, within the Lemmy environment.

            lol not even close, lw is one of the most defederation trigger-happy instances out there, with only dbzer0, lemmy.blahaj.zone, and a few others having more. You just don’t see lw announcing them. Even lemmy.ml has less defederations than lw.

            All you need to do to get banned from lw is to piss of an admin enough over the mildest shit to be a ban-on-sight.

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      The phrasing of “an increase in hate speech and calls to violence” suggests that there is a tolerable level of those.

      • lwadmin@lemmy.worldOPM
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        A tolerable level we can handle by moderation. And when even the admins join in it becomes clear there is a big incompatibility and cultural difference.

        But you probably meant something else, right?

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        Not it doesn’t, it suggests there’s a finite amount of volunteer moderator time. Don’t be a troll.

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        I’m pro voilence against people who block grocery store entrances because they figured that was the best place to chat with someone they ran into… so yes.

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        Yeah, there is: using your critical thinking skills, what number comes before 1?

        long pause

        That’s right! Zero! Good job! And what do we call it when 0 becomes 1?

        long pause

        And increase, yes! applause

        Tune in next week with Dora the Internet Explorer! Bye for now!

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        I took it to mean “it has increased to the point we can’t deal with it all”

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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        Well there are going to be assholes everywhere but I guess if that instance’s admins/mods aren’t doing their jobs of moderating their users then it makes sense to defederate so the burden doesn’t fall on all other instance’s mods.

        The world isn’t black and white like your comment is suggesting.

        • grue@lemmy.world
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          if that instance’s admins/mods aren’t doing their jobs of moderating their users then it makes sense to defederate

          I’m pretty sure the problem with Lemmygrad wasn’t that the admins there “[weren’t] doing their jobs”, but rather that they were doing their jobs and their jobs were to promote and encourage the hateful rhetoric instead of stopping it.

      • ttmrichter@lemmy.world
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        I’m wondering if you’re trolling or just ignorant. I’ll do you the respect of assuming ignorance.

        There will always be hate speech in any forum. Period. This cannot be stopped short of closing the forum down entirely. If, however, the hate speech is low volume, it can be dealt with individually with post deletion, user bans, community deletions, etc. Standard “tactical” moderation techniques.

        But…

        Shitholes like lemmygrad.ml release a veritable flood of hate speech, as do their right-wing “Freeze Peach!” equivalents. Individual, tactical moderation does not scale to that level without a whole lot more money than a hobbyist-run instance can bring to bear. Thus if hate speech and calls for violence reach the point where tactical moderation can no longer keep up, you start with the strategic moderation. In older-style forums that might be an IP ban. In the Fediverse it’s defederation.

        See how that works?

        Now please, prove to me you’re not trolling and simply didn’t understand how things work.