I think it’s IFAB rather than fifa but yeah pretty sure it’s not ‘allowed’ right now. Not sure what they could reasonably do about it though.
Force IFAB by doing it anyway. What are they going to do? Stop the Premier League?
So you’re fine with referees earning money off of the same institution that the Shitty owner is vice president and deputy prime minister for?
Would you be fine with the vice president of the USA buying a Premier League club, being part owner of the MLS, then paying the referees to officiate in the MLS? That’s literally what’s going on here. The fact that it is an Arab country involved has nothing to do with the point I’m making.
You’re missing the point so hard it’s hilarious.
It is a common business practice in literally any other professional industry- why are referees subject to a higher standard than paid consultants for example?
Answer my question please: Would you be fine with the vice president of the USA buying a Premier League club, being part owner of the MLS, then indirectly paying the referees to officiate in the MLS?
Does consultants usually regulate/oversee/govern two organizations up against each other?
This. PL takes the best players from across the globe why not take the best referees too? Seems like a no brainer and at least they won’t have as much of a Manchester bias ffs lol
Your analogy doesn’t make sense. The PIF is a publicly backed state fund so your point about the vice president makes 0 parallel with it.
Consultants work for whomever pays them- so the short answer is yes. Also what organizations are against each other? The PL and the Saudi League? Again a dumb comparison
I get it, you’re slow. ‘organizations’ was the football clubs. Let’s say Shitty and Pool so that it’ll be easier for you.
Your consultant and referee comparison is bad.
If you owned an organization and your rival organization were under regulation by a third party(PGMOL), would you want a person who was getting paid by your rival organization to do the regulation?
Tell tale sign of a weak argument is when the ad hominems comes out. Grow up mate.
Referees are much closer to consultants in this scenario than to whatever absurd comparison you made to the vice president lolol. Referees are paid by the FA and organized as PGMOL. A referee, in their own time, taking a part time gig for another refereeing body is almost exactly what hourly consultants do.
City does not pay the referees salary in the PL, the fucking FA does. The referee being paid by the Saudi league or whatever league pays them is not City paying them. Go touch grass and stop being so conspiratorial.
LOL, says you??? You were the first one to drag the racism card into this discussion. When there were nothing racist about it.
And yeah, no. A referee taking a payment from a league that is partly owned by the same owner that owns City is not questionable for you? Then we have nothing more to discuss. Keep being naive, ignorance is bliss.
I get it, you’re slow. ‘organizations’ was the football clubs. Let’s say Shitty and Pool so that it’ll be easier for you.
Your consultant and referee comparison is bad.
If you owned an organization and your rival organization were under regulation by a third party(PGMOL), would you want a person who was getting paid by your rival organization to do the regulation?
Tell tale sign of a weak argument is when the ad hominems comes out. Grow up mate.
Referees are much closer to consultants in this scenario than to whatever absurd comparison you made to the vice president lolol. Referees are paid by the FA and organized as PGMOL. A referee, in their own time, taking a part time gig for another refereeing body is almost exactly what hourly consultants do.
City does not pay the referees salary in the PL, the fucking FA does. The referee being paid by the Saudi league or whatever league pays them is not City paying them. Go touch grass and stop being so conspiratorial.
LOL, says you??? You were the first one to drag the racism card into this discussion. When there were nothing racist about it.
And yeah, no. A referee taking a payment from a league that is partly owned by the same owner that owns City is not questionable for you? Then we have nothing more to discuss. Keep being naive, ignorance is bliss.
Not even the right Arab country. Fucking lame anti-Arab bullshit. Since when is working part time abroad a conflict of interest?
Since countries started owning football clubs.
Again this is conspiracy theories.
Yes, we’ve never seen corruption in football before. There’s never corruption when there’s so much money in play.
Do you not find it worrying at all that employees that are supposed to objectively and fairly regulate two organizations up against each other are being paid by the same institution that are the owners of one of the organizations? And instead of regulating them fairly and correctly they instead ‘care about their mate’s feelings’ and refuse to do the right thing just to ‘spare them’.
It’s literally obvious, but I do get that some people prefer to close their eyes.
Btw, I think you need to check up on your definition of a conspiracy theory.
its textbook corruption, the problem is there is no one to enforce any kind of rules or norms cause it seems the UK is a failed state
If the officials were corrupt on Sunday then how did we win? Surely if they’re being “paid off” Man City would have won.
To that statement, all I have to say is: 🤦
Edit: Actually, I’ve got more, since it seems like you’re a bit slow. The players aren’t the ones that are corrupt. The players and managers obviously wants to win. 🤦
But we’re not talking about players. You’re saying the refs have been given payments to ensure Man City win. Are we now going to check the refs outgoing payments to see if they handed that money back since clearly they never helped Man City win?
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Giving someone an advantage does not equal make them win. But both can be corruption.
Giving someone an advantage is often all it takes for the team to win are you dumb?
Most of the times yes, but not always. And you’re calling me dumb?? LOL
Didn’t Howard Webb say on the last micd up, it was a Fifa rule and he wants to bring it in.
I think it’s IFAB rather than fifa but yeah pretty sure it’s not ‘allowed’ right now. Not sure what they could reasonably do about it though.
Force IFAB by doing it anyway. What are they going to do? Stop the Premier League?
Answer my question please: Would you be fine with the vice president of the USA buying a Premier League club, being part owner of the MLS, then indirectly paying the referees to officiate in the MLS?
Does consultants usually regulate/oversee/govern two organizations up against each other?
Your analogy doesn’t make sense. The PIF is a publicly backed state fund so your point about the vice president makes 0 parallel with it.
Consultants work for whomever pays them- so the short answer is yes. Also what organizations are against each other? The PL and the Saudi League? Again a dumb comparison
I get it, you’re slow. ‘organizations’ was the football clubs. Let’s say Shitty and Pool so that it’ll be easier for you.
Your consultant and referee comparison is bad.
If you owned an organization and your rival organization were under regulation by a third party(PGMOL), would you want a person who was getting paid by your rival organization to do the regulation?
Tell tale sign of a weak argument is when the ad hominems comes out. Grow up mate.
Referees are much closer to consultants in this scenario than to whatever absurd comparison you made to the vice president lolol. Referees are paid by the FA and organized as PGMOL. A referee, in their own time, taking a part time gig for another refereeing body is almost exactly what hourly consultants do.
City does not pay the referees salary in the PL, the fucking FA does. The referee being paid by the Saudi league or whatever league pays them is not City paying them. Go touch grass and stop being so conspiratorial.
LOL, says you??? You were the first one to drag the racism card into this discussion. When there were nothing racist about it.
And yeah, no. A referee taking a payment from a league that is partly owned by the same owner that owns City is not questionable for you? Then we have nothing more to discuss. Keep being naive, ignorance is bliss.
It’s obvious micing them up would reveal the extent of their lad’s-club-banter-incompetence culture
I’m really not interested in hearing live VAR during matches at all. Announce their decision, sure, and maybe briefly the why of it at the end of reviews. Perhaps have a ref cover the big calls in postmatch interview or publish a brief match report. Whatever.
What’s most important to me is improvement in refereeing standards–competency, consistency within games and throughout the season, and improved VAR process. Not perfection, but reasonable consistency.
I’m far more interested in how Webb is to change the training and recruitment process to produce a higher quality of refereeing. I’ve not even heard if he thinks it’s a problem.
Similarly, what does he think of how basic interpretations and directives randomly change throughout the season? Is that what he wants going forward, and if so will they be transparent about that prior to the shifts in policy? (Surely the changing directives make life harder for referees on the pitch and in Stockley Park.)I’m not really hearing anything from Webb about what his goals are in that regard. He’s just trying to put out fires and do some softball PR interviews.
It works well in rugby. If we are sat there having to wait, May as well hear what’s going on. I would rather hear what is going on from the horse’s mouth than Gary Neville pretending he has a fucking clue for 2 mins.
Disgraceful. Clearly covering for the awful decisions every weekend
*covering for the clear corruption that’s been going on for ages
It’s not corruption. It’s just the fear of looking like an idiot - everyone already thinks they’re idiots so it’s no loss to them.
Corruption is a form of dishonesty(!) or a criminal offence which is undertaken by a person or an organization which is entrusted in a position of authority, in order to acquire illicit benefits or abuse power for one’s personal gain. Corruption may(!) involve many activities which include bribery, influence peddling and embezzlement and it may also involve practices which are legal in many countries.
Where is the evidence of corruption other than your conspiracy theories?
If there’s corruption we’d be investigating payments not asking for VAR to be used better.
Start investigating all the refs and their finances. Won’t be surprised if City were involved.
I mean Michael Oliver is literally being paid by Man City to referee in Qatar
Not even the right Arab country. Fucking lame anti-Arab bullshit. Since when is working part time abroad a conflict of interest?
Since countries started owning football clubs.
If you’re going to accuse someone of corruption, at least get the country right
UAE. Not Saudi, not Qatar. UAE.
To that statement, all I have to say is: 🤦
Edit: Actually, I’ve got more, since it seems like you’re a bit slow. The players aren’t the ones that are corrupt. The players and managers obviously wants to win. 🤦
But we’re not talking about players. You’re saying the refs have been given payments to ensure Man City win. Are we now going to check the refs outgoing payments to see if they handed that money back since clearly they never helped Man City win?
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Giving someone an advantage does not equal make them win. But both can be corruption.
Giving someone an advantage is often all it takes for the team to win are you dumb?
Most of the times yes, but not always. And you’re calling me dumb?? LOL
its textbook corruption, the problem is there is no one to enforce any kind of rules or norms cause it seems the UK is a failed state
But we’re not talking about players. You’re saying the refs have been given payments to ensure Man City win. Are we now going to check the refs outgoing payments to see if they handed that money back since clearly they never helped Man City win?
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Giving someone an advantage does not equal make them win. But both can be corruption.
Giving someone an advantage is often all it takes for the team to win are you dumb?
Most of the times yes, but not always. And you’re calling me dumb?? LOL
Force IFAB by doing it anyway. What are they going to do? Stop the Premier League?
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Giving someone an advantage does not equal make them win. But both can be corruption.
Giving someone an advantage is often all it takes for the team to win are you dumb?
Most of the times yes, but not always. And you’re calling me dumb?? LOL