Some mentioned the other one was old. Heres a two-day old article on the same issue.

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    1 year ago

    Why do you feel people must justify “need”?

    Because people and children are dying from firearm related deaths all the fucking time in this country. Your rights end where another’s nose begins.

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      LOL! Sure lunatic. So the criminals that by definition dont follow the law and have no issues comiting murder, will swap those 30rd mags for 10’s becuase those are legal right? Makes no difference that its a felony for them to be in possession of a firearm is already a crime, the mag limit… That’ll stop them right?

      You’re hilarious. I’ll bet speed limits and DUI laws stop people too right? The ol’ gotta do “something” even when its proven not to work mindset huh?

      Plan your next vacation to reality.

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          Give an example of how that’s a straw man, its literally punishing the innocent for the crimes of criminal with laws theyre already ignoring.

          Nice try.

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            Give an example of how that’s a straw man

            I never said anything about any of this:

            • criminals that by definition dont follow the law and have no issues comiting murder, will swap those 30rd mags for 10’s becuase those are legal

            Or this:

            • I’ll bet speed limits and DUI laws stop people too right?

            You are arguing against a position I do not hold, a strawman.

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              If your argument is that limiting magazine capacity for people not commuting crimes, has an effect on people that ignore laws and will not produce any real life result as a consequence of that, than yes, you are.

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                Now you’ve moved the goal posts.

                These two statements:

                • has an effect on people that ignore laws

                and

                • criminals that by definition dont follow the law and have no issues comiting murder, will swap those 30rd mags for 10’s becuase those are legal

                are fundamentally different claims.

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                  Goal posts are exactly where they’ve always been. You want the innocent hindered/punished for the crimes of criminals with laws/regulations that only apply to those who follow laws in the first place. Law that aren’t new, and have proven useless. You’re clearly not a CA resident, or a gun owner because this is elementary school simple, yet clearly over your head.

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                    Goal posts are exactly where they’ve always been

                    Not anymore, because

                    • has an effect on people that ignore laws

                    and

                    • criminals that by definition dont follow the law and have no issues comiting murder, will swap those 30rd mags for 10’s becuase those are legal

                    are not the same. They are fundamentally different claims. One is focused on effect, the other on intent.

                    You want the innocent hindered/punished for the crimes of criminals with laws/regulations that only apply to those who follow laws in the first place.

                    That’s not what I want.

                    You’re clearly not a CA resident, or a gun owner because this is elementary school simple, yet clearly over your head.

                    And this is an ad hominem.