I just don’t understand the thought process. They could’ve just shelled out $10M for Apollo and made that the official Reddit app. Then give users the choice of ads or pay for ad free experience.
so basically they’re making a massive gamble that most people will just switch over to their garbage app. Maybe they will, but for sure the power users, big sub moderators & regular posters are all coming to Lemmy. You know, all the people that made Reddit worth visiting.
Personally I think this will be the end of Reddit.
Well, Reddit did shell out money for a third party client. They bought the iOS app Alien Blue in 2014 and turned that into an official app before quickly abandoning it for their client in 2016.
They bought the app , and then destroyed it.
They should have learned for their second try, and just bought the app, then not destroyed it.
If your core offering can be recreated by a bunch of hobbyists in the their spare time, and your value is 100% the content your users create and moderate then perhaps you’re not the great product company you thought you were and you should leave product creation to others.
But hey, perhaps it’s a good idea to take the reasons for using your site away and see what happens.
After all, your friends take their private planes everywhere while you’re forced to fly first class occasionally - and you want that money.
That would never happen though. The icentives of Christian Selig and the incentives of Reddit are very different. People like it because it’s not made by Reddit
That is the crux of the issue, yeah. Reddit needs to make money, which requires enshittifying their app to serve more ads…which drives people away from using their app.
Lemmy’s lack of profit motive is probably the best thing going for it. The decentralization is good too, but I still think it’s secondary to the fact that it doesn’t need to try to make a profit
Yeah I used that before Apollo :)
Realistically Reddit will survive, but it will be a zombie of its former self, kind of similar to how Digg is these days. Let’s just hope it kills their valuation and /u/spez has to answer for it.
I really hope it survives, only because I want to preserve and archive all of it’s content. Sure, there’s a lot of duplicate data and links to other places, but there’s also a lot of unique things there. If it dies before it can be properly archived we would lose most of it, with only internet archive keeping some. That would be sad.
I think that it’s been fairly well archived prior to July 1st. Now that API access is blocked, further backing up becomes harder.
There are some off sites reddit archives, given enough time, there will be a way to find data without visiting reddit.
So you read reddit specifically through the way back at all times, so it’ll archive as you go?
…digg still exists?
MySpace does too!
Some of the communities I was in on Reddit don’t seem to want to move. They’re ones where users don’t go to Reddit, they go to r/whatever, and have usernames matched to the sub.
I doubt Reddit can survive on those sort of users, in those sort of subs, but many of them will stay on Reddit as long as it keeps working
I now only use Reddit for those subs, but rarely since I now only use Reddit thorough it’s old web interface with Reddit Enhancement Suite
The remaining 30% computer users might be me googling all my IT problems
Reddit is the new Quora or Yahoo! Answers
Quora is so disgusting. I thank reddit will become just like quora . Reddit + to read full answers , they show you related topic under question instead of the answers , etc .
Need that slide feature for one handed mode for… Reasons
you know, now that you mention it, I should really look into using lemmy for all the things I used reddit for
Better yet would be a shared knowledge base of “just how to do stuff” without any corporate overlords and just moderation to prevent danger or harm for spreading. Like wikihow, but not so shit. Just have basically your notes.txt file for work but with more contributors. The problem with these threaded support threads lasting forever as “here’s how to do stuff” is they exist as snapshots and time makes things malleable
I’ve used TiddlyWiki for work notes for ages. I used to just keep my Wiki on a thumb drive, but now I use Dropbox and “TiddlyWiki In The Sky”. Have it open in another browser tab.
Searchable, tags, all the good Wiki stuff.
I used TiddlyWiki for years and dearly love it. I’ve been using Logseq to fill that need as of late because TiddlyWiki just ran into bugs too often for me to comfortably and happily rely on it
Exactly why reddit wanted all 3rd party apps gone. All they could see was dollar signs going down the toilet.
Now they see it burning
They had dollars while you were on the toilet. Now it’s flushed down the drain.
I’ll sue the desktop site on my phone before I’ll use that hot garbage they call an app. It loads faster and works better plus not fucking video ads or that Jesus shit ad they are pushing.
Back when I used reddit… weird saying I know, I consumed Reddit on my phone, my ipad, and desktop in various combinations, pretty much constantly. Phone/ipad during work, and additional desktop use after. Desktop using Reddit Enhancement Suite (unusable without really), and Apollo for mobile. Spez made going cold turkey on Reddit stupid easy for this heavy user of over 10 years.
It’s like going to your favorite donut shop every day for a decade, where your on good terms with the employees, but the boss is shit but you hardly ever see him so it’s ok. Then one day, instead of the usual server, Spez shows up, and hands you your favorite donut with a scoop of shit on top, and says that’s how they serve them now. Yeah, I’ll go somewhere else, thanks.
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I just deleted Apollo off my phone, so I guess I’m done with Reddit for the most part.
I haven’t had the heart to delete it yet, but I’m also pretty much done with Reddit.
I checked it out on desktop today. Top 8 hits in 4 of my favorite subs were busted bot reposts. It was a short visit.
I feel that. I just kept hitting it out of habit and it made me sad.
I replaced the reddit app with Connect for Lemmy. Instead of opening it accidentally I get the superior Lemmy experience.
Same, I used a different app on Android but I can’t bring myself to delete it
*TIL that 70% of US traffic on reddit WAS from users on a mobile device
Until July 1 2023 🪦
Rip <your favourite 3rd party app>
Relevant screenshot for those interested
US makes up just over 42% of total traffic, of which just over 70% is on mobile. No stats about 1st party / 3rd party apps usage.
Huh didn’t expect India to be that high up.
In developing countries it’s far more common to use the internet via mobile.
Elaborate?
I live in India and barely anyone I know uses reddit. So to see it being 3rd on the list is pretty surprising. Although to be fair, with the population we have, even a small percentage is a big number.
Aisa laga hi tha.
I feel we are underestimating the power of NSFW content. Do you think people would pay to look at Ullu, AltBalaji content? Reddit is money free consumption place for them.
Also, I have a different experience. In the past few years, I have seen a lot of people around who have started using Reddit a lot.
I uninstalled boost today, can’t wait for Boost for Lemmy. Although Jebora is pretty nice too.
I’m enjoying Connect for Lemmy, very smooth sailing so far
Just found Connect, and this feels right at home coming from SYNC
Thanks. It’s nice. They all have their quirks but connect seems good
I just switched from Jerboa to Connect.
Jerboa is a hot mess of bugs and I really miss RiF…but it’s still a thousand times better than the official Reddit app
Is there going to be a boost for Lemmy? That excites me!
That brings warmth to my heart. Loved Boost!
Yes, and you can set it up to auto-download once it’s available if you search it in Google Play
oddly, it still works for me.
Not anymore LOL
I mean I think I saw a chart before the change and over 50% of people use the official app. So it’s less then I had thought.
Depressing, but I’m also excited for new things here
/agedlikemilk
To be honest, I really doubt they felt the exodus. Most people don’t care what Reddit is doing and /r/videos alone had more users than entire Lemmy network. I wish they felt it. I refuse to open Reddit now. They could have had a different, more user friendly approach, but no… quick and easy way to earn money.
I will not sit at desk to read . Smartphone are just way better for this kind of task . Most people access the internet with a smartphone ,not a PC tower.
What about a laptop or tablet? I usually only use my phone when I’m on the go or in a difficult situation.
laptops are bulky and phones are super convenient because they’re always on and have quick pausing so you can easily pick up and put down. whenever you need to
once you have a a phone , why pay 300$ for a tablet ? I was thinking to buy a tablet because I spend an outrageous amount of time reading stuff on the internet . I looked at low-end tablet and the screen quality was terrible . I look at a S7 FE tablet ,700$, way better , but should I spend 700$ for 3 inch bigger screen ? Tablet on the toilet? I don’t think so. Tablet in my shower shelves , no. Tablet in my bed,maybe , but just while sitting … What about listening to podcasts … My phone do it and fit in my pocket , my bicycle , my car and my jogging fanny bag. So the tablet would be used only while I’m the couch or laying in my bed… but at this point I have a laptop . I have a 42 inch tv connected to my pc tower ,and a laptop that I barely use. Since I’m sitting all day long at my job. I prefer to lay down on my sofa at night ,not sit again behind a monitor on an office chair .
Tablet when you lose the ability to focus up close and need your device arm’s length away. But there are treatments for list accommodation or glasses, so that’s a non problem
Mainly for
- chilling in bed or something, where a laptop is too clumsy
- digital art/drawing/notes (for me, may not apply to others)
We also have like 10-12" tablets now and I’m a small phone fan, so I could see like a 5.5" phone and 11" tablet working well.
And 50% of mobile users are on a toilet
I feel like that should be 50% of ALL Reddit users are on a toilet (guilty as charged). So if you have 50% of users on the toilet, and 70% of them on mobile, why that looks like a perfect 5/7 to me.
I had forgotten about 5/7. Ah, back in the good ol’ days of Reddit.
Lol i read your comment while taking a massive shit
i enjoy swiping tinder when i’m taking a shit
That makes sense. I’m not sitting in front of my computer all day, but I always have my phone.
Switching my entire mobile usage over to lemmy is easily 90-95% of my social media time.
This is true for most online platforms. I work in Online Education as a SaaS Admin for LMS system hosting and at a conference I went to 4 or 5 years ago the UAE did an in depth presentation on their online academic outreach program. The adoption of education on mobile phones was astounding and the only other platform that mattered metric wise was Window PCs and it was a distant second.
Do you have any links to this research? Sounds super interesting
Not anymore but they gave the presentation years ago so it may be posted somewhere. The data was very fascinating but also exactly what someone in my field already knew. I enjoyed seeing an entire countries data set vs my single institution and was pleased to see that my local trends reflected those of a country not even on my continent. I see they have a covid education trend study up also so I am probably going to read some of that info this month since it isn’t tainted by my local data biases.
Spez really killed the whole damn site, the greedy little pigboy
really makes you wonder how Swartz would feel about all this. what would he think of the fediverse? lemmy vs reddit?
Here’s hoping. Its probably gonna be bussines as usual with their ridicolous culture wars.
It’s not entirely like usual. They’re still doing that thing where they repost top posts to make it seem alive.
I don’t know if it’s admins, mods or bots doing it, but there sure isn’t a lot of user generated content ob Reddit today.
