Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 12 天前Can things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?message-squaremessage-square87linkfedilinkarrow-up146arrow-down111
arrow-up135arrow-down1message-squareCan things exist without anyone being aware of their existence?Ahmed@lemmy.zip to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 12 天前message-square87linkfedilink
minus-square∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzlinkfedilinkarrow-up17arrow-down1·12 天前Obviously, yes. But now the question is, can you be aware of things that don’t exist?
minus-squareMeow@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up7arrow-down1·12 天前As fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.
minus-squareAhmed@lemmy.zipOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down6·12 天前Maybe we’re not aware of a non-existent thing itself, but of an idea or perception in our minds.
minus-squarepmk@piefed.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·12 天前How does this differ from having an idea or perception in our minds about existing things?
minus-squareAhmed@lemmy.zipOPlinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down2·12 天前purely imaginary things exist only in the mind.
minus-squarepmk@piefed.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down1·12 天前But are we aware of existing things in themselves, apart from the idea and perception in our minds?
minus-square∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down2·12 天前Actually this is the right answer, and doesn’t deserve the downvotes.
minus-squareMeow@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1·11 天前I think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed’s answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed’s answer.
Obviously, yes. But now the question is, can you be aware of things that don’t exist?
As fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.
Maybe we’re not aware of a non-existent thing itself, but of an idea or perception in our minds.
How does this differ from having an idea or perception in our minds about existing things?
purely imaginary things exist only in the mind.
But are we aware of existing things in themselves, apart from the idea and perception in our minds?
Actually this is the right answer, and doesn’t deserve the downvotes.
I think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed’s answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed’s answer.