Hi, I’m u/MayaFey_ from reddit, I am on the mod team of /r/badwomensanatomy.
We were part of the failed protest, and frankly we’re done with spez. We’re leaving. We have a poll on our subreddit to choose between lemmy, discord, and raddle, and lemmy is winning by a large margin so far.
So if lemmy wins, the question will present itself… which instance will we move to? As a mod team, we’d prefer an instance with open registration to lower friction for our reddit members making the transition. And we’re also looking for a place that is not accepting of misogyny or violence against women. This is me sending out feelers to figure out which instances would be a best fit and most accepting of our community.
Some details about us:
Badwomensanatomy is a community about… bad women’s anatomy. Users will reproduce images they found elsewhere (like, a snip of a facebook post, or something from a poorly drawn manga, for example) that state incorrect ideas about anatomy or incorrect depictions of anatomy. Sometimes these posts can be NSFW, or misogynistic, but the idea behind the community is we call these things out and discuss the ways they are ill-conceived and what the correct anatomy is.
Our sub is very pro-queer and pro-trans, and not tolerant of terfs at all. Though it doesn’t specifically relate to queerness or transness, so I’m not sure how good of a fit it will be.
So far, about 40 users have responded to our poll and it’s been 5 hours. Our sub has over 500k subs, but being realistic, only a few dozen or a hundred at most will make the jump. That said, that’s still a lot of users given how small lemmy is at this time.
If you’re receptive to this migration, and the poll confirms the community’s choice to go to lemmy, we can create a community here and start migrating. As a representative of the mod team, I am willing to chip in to the running costs of this instance to compensate for the increase burden.
Let me know what you think.
You’re more than welcome to create the community here. It’s worth noting though that even after the community is created here, any user can join it from other Lemmy instances. So not everyone has to join this instance even if you move here.
As for fitting with the instance, as long as you’re explicitly queer inclusive and have no space for terfs or any other variety of transphobe, you’ll fit right in :)
Thanks Ada for your response and your willingness to welcome us in. I’ll confer with the team and see if we can achieve consensus.
I’ve been a subscriber of r/badwomensanatomy for a really long time and can vouch for the fact that I’ve always felt safe there as a trans woman.
I joined this particular instance because it felt like a safe space to be, and I think that should be one of the biggest considerations when migrating a community like yours.
I think Kobold’s concerns about spambots are valid to raise, but as it stands there hasn’t been any issues with bots on this instance. I pretty firmly believe the admin’s here would take steps when needed to stop spambots and bad actors, as they seem committed to making sure it remains safe.
I think the lower barrier to entry for people is more important at the start like you said, and simplifies things by having an instance you trust to direct your users too. You don’t want them wandering onto an instance that won’t moderate/defederate malicious and harmful content.
Please keep in mind that instances with open registrations are the ones most likely to be targeted by bad actors to host bot accounts. Instances that do become hosts to bot farms are likely to be defederated by other instances in short order. Not saying your decision to go for one with open registration is necessarily bad, but you should be aware that this is a concern that has been raised.
This is certainly true, and I’m aware of this. But our community isn’t tight nit and passionate as others - we fear that if we go somewhere with closed registration, very few people will make the jump.
Something else to consider is that you could create the community somewhere with closed registration, and inform users that they can register to instances with open registration… or anywhere they please. There’s no real reason they need to go to the same instance the community is created on.
You overestimate most users.
While there’s a brief question (basically a vibe check) in the signup form, you’re probably going to be much more in-line with the beliefs and attitudes of Beehaw.org than Lemmy. Lemmy is kind of a free-for-all right now; they just had a large Lemmy instance that had to have some kind of big vote or “review” or something over whether or not to ban a The_Donald sub that like 2 people were posting in.
Beehaw is intentionally moderated specifically to be a safer federation space, although you’d have to contact the admins about opening up a badwomensanatomy community (they don’t let just anyone spin up a sub whenever they feel like it, specifically to avoid having to go back and clean out a bunch of TD-like nonsense).
Kbin is kind of in-between those two. Lemmy is the wild west, Beehaw is a protected grove, and kbin kind of tries to keep them both happy without compromising too much on either the heavy-modding side or the “we’re not sure if we’re cool with nazis or not” side. As such, you can see content from both, while Beehaw has defederated (basically blocked at the software level) a couple of the bigger Lemmy instances (including the “do we like nazis? let’s take a vote” instance).
The downside of kbin is that it’s technologically still rough around the edges; as far as I know, there’s like one guy trying to keep up with everything on the backend, and he’s a little swamped right now, so features/suggestions are going to take a while to be implemented.
[Edit: Also, I loved your sub. Y’all rock.]
… attitudes of Beehaw.org than Lemmy.
I mean, beehaw.org is an instance of Lemmy? Lemmy is just software.
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I… guess? I don’t fuckin’ know, I’m not a tech guy. I comment on cat pictures.
I’m a reddit subscriber who won’t vote over there because of my scrubbed account - but consider this a vote to come here! I like this instance and so far it’s been drama free and very safe
The vote succeeded for lemmy, come join us at /c/badwomensanatomy!
I contributed to BWA and will again. Count me in.
/c/badwomensanatomy. Gates open come on in!
It would be great to have your community join lemmy either here on blahaj or beehaw! I’d definitely subscribe! The closed registration was what most drew me to beehaw over blahaj, but I’m fairly defensive regarding potential troll exposure and the general unpleasantness of which the internet excels. Raddle could be a nice fit for you all as well. However an examination of the rules there would be well advised for those making the switch. Language frequently used on reddit would run afoul of many. Good luck with your potential move!
We ended up choosing blahaj. Come join us at !badwomensanatomy@lemmy.blahaj.zone. We’d love to see you :)
