America is much more open to a black man with a penis as president than ANY woman. And that black man with a penis had to be the most intelligent, personable, and charismatic black person with a penis ever to get elected.
Run the same losing strategy that has lost the last two times we’ve tried it and we’ll lose again. Simple as that.
No, he had a black Muslim African father, an active campaign to paint him as not-American (with a heavy subtext of not-white), and the middle name Hussein when trying to succeed the War on Terror president. And Republicans (including Trump) tried their damnedest to make that define him. And then Democrats won a supermajority.
Obama had way more to overcome, but all that stuff is irrelevant if you have charisma and a popular platform.
More left leaning than Obama. Centrists don’t like that.
Younger than any other elected president ever.
Is not quite as personable or charismatic as Obama. She can’t reach as many people.
She absolutely has more working against her than Obama. I don’t think you grasp just how many Americans simply won’t vote for a person with a vagina to be president. And in all the right geographical places to prevent it from happening.
None of that at all compares to being a black “non-American” “Muslim” post 9/11. And it’s irrelevant, because even thinking demographics is the guiding light for potential Democratic voters is just demonstrably untrue.
None of that matters if you’re charismatic and have a good platform that speaks to a brighter future. Those two traits are worlds more valuable than what all you hand wringers dredge up whenever the black man or the Hispanic woman start capturing people’s attention. We heard all the same things in 2008.
None of this is really about any of that, it’s all just #3. Obama and AOC both campaigned on moving left, so all the blather from centrists about civil rights and “the future is female” evaporates in an instant and they reveal they’re all just mini Steve Bannons looking for whatever naked bigotry they think can foreground to prevent progress.
I hear you, and it’s a fair claim to make. But you can’t assume people will be able to fill in that gap accurately unless you say what you mean. Especially in an online, text-based forum that’s likely full of trolls and bots. That’s probably why you got downvoted to oblivion.
History has proven again and again that the first woman to win will be a conservative. With more of the blue collar union guys starting to vote conservative, this becomes even more probable.
Even so, I really hope I can look on this comment 3 years now and be proved wrong.
I think there’s a real serious argument that “conservative” can mask “woman” or “minority” to counterweight nativist bigotry. And you might see this in politicians like Jodi Ernst or Sarah Palin or Dianne Feinstein or Kamala Harris even, where tacking to conservative rhetoric offsets the presumption that you’re a bunch of bra burning far left feminists.
But the idea that you can’t run as a conservative Democrat and win high office? Really requires you to just gouge out your eyes before glancing at any historical text. God forbid you lay eyes on a biography of Hillary Clinton.
Oh, so we’re going for a 3rd Trump term then?
If you’re going to casually toss out statements like that, you might want to elaborate on your reasoning a bit.
America is too racist and bigoted as shown by the last 2 Trump wins
Did you completely forget about 2 terms with Obama? Turn your head sideways and let the bong resin flow out of your ear. It might take some time
OBAMA HAS A PENIS.
America is much more open to a black man with a penis as president than ANY woman. And that black man with a penis had to be the most intelligent, personable, and charismatic black person with a penis ever to get elected.
Run the same losing strategy that has lost the last two times we’ve tried it and we’ll lose again. Simple as that.
I forgot Obama was a woman and ran against Trump. Damn, I guess you’re right.
No, he had a black Muslim African father, an active campaign to paint him as not-American (with a heavy subtext of not-white), and the middle name Hussein when trying to succeed the War on Terror president. And Republicans (including Trump) tried their damnedest to make that define him. And then Democrats won a supermajority.
Obama had way more to overcome, but all that stuff is irrelevant if you have charisma and a popular platform.
AOC is
A woman.
Not white.
More left leaning than Obama. Centrists don’t like that.
Younger than any other elected president ever.
Is not quite as personable or charismatic as Obama. She can’t reach as many people.
She absolutely has more working against her than Obama. I don’t think you grasp just how many Americans simply won’t vote for a person with a vagina to be president. And in all the right geographical places to prevent it from happening.
None of that at all compares to being a black “non-American” “Muslim” post 9/11. And it’s irrelevant, because even thinking demographics is the guiding light for potential Democratic voters is just demonstrably untrue.
None of that matters if you’re charismatic and have a good platform that speaks to a brighter future. Those two traits are worlds more valuable than what all you hand wringers dredge up whenever the black man or the Hispanic woman start capturing people’s attention. We heard all the same things in 2008.
None of this is really about any of that, it’s all just #3. Obama and AOC both campaigned on moving left, so all the blather from centrists about civil rights and “the future is female” evaporates in an instant and they reveal they’re all just mini Steve Bannons looking for whatever naked bigotry they think can foreground to prevent progress.
Did you mean to say “sexist” instead of “racist”?
I’m saying it’s both.
I hear you, and it’s a fair claim to make. But you can’t assume people will be able to fill in that gap accurately unless you say what you mean. Especially in an online, text-based forum that’s likely full of trolls and bots. That’s probably why you got downvoted to oblivion.
It’s not the end of the world
Given the choice of a Nazi pedophile or … a woman, the former has proven to be the choice twice already.
Hey man, just let people continue to vote on a strategy that keeps losing.
If we keep attempting a losing strategy, it’s bound to work eventually, right?
Exactly what I’m saying, but you get upvotes and I get down votes
History has proven again and again that the first woman to win will be a conservative. With more of the blue collar union guys starting to vote conservative, this becomes even more probable.
Even so, I really hope I can look on this comment 3 years now and be proved wrong.
Sort of like how Colin Powell was our first black president?
These people proactively enforcing the preferences of bigots just act like Barrack Hussein Obama never existed.
I think there’s a real serious argument that “conservative” can mask “woman” or “minority” to counterweight nativist bigotry. And you might see this in politicians like Jodi Ernst or Sarah Palin or Dianne Feinstein or Kamala Harris even, where tacking to conservative rhetoric offsets the presumption that you’re a bunch of bra burning far left feminists.
But the idea that you can’t run as a conservative Democrat and win high office? Really requires you to just gouge out your eyes before glancing at any historical text. God forbid you lay eyes on a biography of Hillary Clinton.
Always have been