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    7 days ago

    I disagree. This same argument can be made for a minstrel style depiction of obama. It is precisely their historic use that makes them problematic.

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      7 days ago

      Can you frame it as a whole problem and not a “it’s okay for some groups of people but not okay for other groups of people” problem where you want to act like treating people different based on their race or religion is moral?

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            3 days ago

            it’s the fake equality concern. you’re arguing for equal treatment to groups that are not on equal ground to begin with. yeah some things are more ok for some people than it is for others because historical context exists. a black man can say cracker all day and all night and it wouldn’t be as bad as a white man saying the n word once. tough shit.

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              2 days ago

              These things are not comparable. Comparing the n-word to “loud poor idiot” like they are equal is literally some of the most stupid shit I have ever heard. You have no idea what you are talking about. You can’t be infantizing people based on their race or religion that is genuinely wrong. I know you aren’t trying to be racists and anti-jewish, I know you are just stupid. Be bettter.

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                2 days ago

                what the fuck are you even talking about. anti Jewish? loud poor idiot? what? is this an AI bot? you’re hallucinating.

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                  Like I siad you don’t know what you are talking about, I know you are just stupid. Be better. I don’t know what I am talking about but I can call out a glaring error like infantizing people over political satire that is literally just as offensive to the next person regardless of ethnicity or religion.

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        7 days ago

        What? Context exists. Historically, we’ve enslaved peoples, we’ve genocided peoples, and so on. And yes, sometimes yhis entails different treatment of those peoples to right those wrongs. Pretending otherwise is some white lives matter shit.

        It is worse to say the n word than it is to say cracker, and I will die on that hill.

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          7 days ago

          Exactly context exists. So why is it totally thrown out in your argument? Political satire is the prevailing context, political caricatures. By nature they are meant to be offensive.

          It is worse to say the n word than it is to say cracker, and I will die on that hill.

          That is false equivalence. Also comparing the n-word to ''loud poor idiot" is wild.

          Making an offensive depiction of a black person is not racist. Making an offensive depiction of a jewish person is not anti-jewish. And as long as we are getting offended on behalf of entire groups, I am offended on behalf of all black and all jewish people because you think they are so tribally thin skinned that they need special protections against something the other ethnicity politicians hang on their walls.

          Hey let me try one : So because movies had racist depictions of black people, no black people should be allowed in movies? Actually that isn’t such far off false equivalence now is it? That is what you want for political satire.

          E:Look up street caricature artists some funny shit out there dude lighten up fight an actual problem talk to an actual activist see where your efforts will be valued.