A reminder that israel is a project planned and launched largely by british christians to scapegoat jews for western exploitation and militarism against muslim states in the middle east. The west will pretend to support judaism only so long as the appearance can be abused as a means of domination.
For my fellow americans in the room, consider how the timing of the rise of evangelicalism - A christian doomsday sect obsessed with jewish control of palestine - As a state religion here in all but name only, coincides roughly with the US taking up the baton from the british as top paypig for israel, coincides roughly with our current acceptance of european-descended jews into white privilege.
Is the fear of being labeled antisemite that strong? Yes Christians Zionists has big influence but the people and group to directly ethnically cleansing Palestinian during the nekba was not Christians . Ben Gurion, the Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi was not Christians. Zionist are jewish and Christian supermasist similar to ISIS are Islamic supremacists .
The Israeli group B’Tselem also refer to the israeli regime as Jewish supremacy
That there are a shitload of zionist jews out there who support the israel project is I’d say a basic fact that goes without saying. Highlighting how these racist cartoons slot right into the hypocritical history of that project is not an apologetic mea culpa toward them, it’s actually the sort of ideas that would get me labeled antisemitic by both them or your average hasbarist.
I’m actually a bit surprised how unpopular my above comment seems to be, is the british public not educated about the history of the balfour declaration? Or are they still so uncomfortable confronting how their own racisms and biases are a significant facet in fueling that project that, even in an antizionist space discussing racist charicatures of an antizionist, they prefer to assume that examinations of that facet are apology on behalf of zionist jews?
The Belfour declaration happened because of the Jewish Zionist and first president of Israel Chaim Weizmann to begin with. The British empire is complicit in the colonization but those who did the ethnic cleansing was mostly Jewish Zionists financed by other Jewish Zionists . And the be clear those Zionist jews do not represent jews and Judaism as a while. I really doubt that the colonization project would have been stopped if the Belfour declaration did not happen
Correct and Balfour, the man who penned the document, was a conservative christian. And the declaration was ratified and backed by the almost entirely christian parliament. That jews are predominantly responsible for being the dogs who carry out western atrocities in israel is a given. That’s a basic fact. Why can’t you acknowledge the christian colonialist component of zionism without falling back on making that basic fact the centerpiece of your reply? It’s really weird. I’m not asking you personally yo take responsibility for this. I’m just asking us all to acknowledge that this is no longer really a “jewish” project. It’s racist nation state domination with a jewish skin.
Why can’t you acknowledge the christian colonialist component of zionism
But I do.
That jews are predominantly responsible for being the dogs who carry out western atrocities in israel is a given.
The zionist jews and zionist christians had alluance based on having a common target. There is no master/dog relstion here
this is no longer really a “jewish” project
It was always a colonial project backed by other colonial powers and different interests. No wonder those imperialist power quickly recognized an illigitimate state
Sorry, I think I was arguing a bit past you earlier, on closer examination I think we’re mostly on the same page. I’m just used to being surprised by the difference in reactions to self-criticism between US and UK commenters so I was probably a bit too on guard! Your clarifications here make it all make sense.
A reminder that israel is a project planned and launched largely by british christians to scapegoat jews for western exploitation and militarism against muslim states in the middle east. The west will pretend to support judaism only so long as the appearance can be abused as a means of domination.
For my fellow americans in the room, consider how the timing of the rise of evangelicalism - A christian doomsday sect obsessed with jewish control of palestine - As a state religion here in all but name only, coincides roughly with the US taking up the baton from the british as top paypig for israel, coincides roughly with our current acceptance of european-descended jews into white privilege.
Is the fear of being labeled antisemite that strong? Yes Christians Zionists has big influence but the people and group to directly ethnically cleansing Palestinian during the nekba was not Christians . Ben Gurion, the Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi was not Christians. Zionist are jewish and Christian supermasist similar to ISIS are Islamic supremacists .
The Israeli group B’Tselem also refer to the israeli regime as Jewish supremacy
That there are a shitload of zionist jews out there who support the israel project is I’d say a basic fact that goes without saying. Highlighting how these racist cartoons slot right into the hypocritical history of that project is not an apologetic mea culpa toward them, it’s actually the sort of ideas that would get me labeled antisemitic by both them or your average hasbarist.
I’m actually a bit surprised how unpopular my above comment seems to be, is the british public not educated about the history of the balfour declaration? Or are they still so uncomfortable confronting how their own racisms and biases are a significant facet in fueling that project that, even in an antizionist space discussing racist charicatures of an antizionist, they prefer to assume that examinations of that facet are apology on behalf of zionist jews?
The Belfour declaration happened because of the Jewish Zionist and first president of Israel Chaim Weizmann to begin with. The British empire is complicit in the colonization but those who did the ethnic cleansing was mostly Jewish Zionists financed by other Jewish Zionists . And the be clear those Zionist jews do not represent jews and Judaism as a while. I really doubt that the colonization project would have been stopped if the Belfour declaration did not happen
Correct and Balfour, the man who penned the document, was a conservative christian. And the declaration was ratified and backed by the almost entirely christian parliament. That jews are predominantly responsible for being the dogs who carry out western atrocities in israel is a given. That’s a basic fact. Why can’t you acknowledge the christian colonialist component of zionism without falling back on making that basic fact the centerpiece of your reply? It’s really weird. I’m not asking you personally yo take responsibility for this. I’m just asking us all to acknowledge that this is no longer really a “jewish” project. It’s racist nation state domination with a jewish skin.
But I do.
The zionist jews and zionist christians had alluance based on having a common target. There is no master/dog relstion here
It was always a colonial project backed by other colonial powers and different interests. No wonder those imperialist power quickly recognized an illigitimate state
Sorry, I think I was arguing a bit past you earlier, on closer examination I think we’re mostly on the same page. I’m just used to being surprised by the difference in reactions to self-criticism between US and UK commenters so I was probably a bit too on guard! Your clarifications here make it all make sense.