The spectacle in the movie and book was explained in the book. That only happened because Harry and Voldy were basically the same person as far as the magic was concerned. When Voldy killed Harry’s mom, he inadvertently made Harry his horcrux by trying, and failing to kill Harry. So basically one person was trying to kill themselves, and that caused the backfire. Also Harry didn’t cast Avada Kedavera in that duel. He cast his signature spell, Expelliarmus.
Basically there was some “chosen one,” stuff going on there. With anyone else, if both wizards get the spell off, both would be dead.
ETA: technically Harry failed to kill Bellatrix the only time he attempted Avada Kedavera. She got hit by a green blast and laughed at him telling him, “you have to mean it Potter, you can’t just say it!”
As far as I am aware that would be correct. Also, see my edit to the previous comment.
I’m actually kinda surprised that he was able to Septumspectra Malfoy that one time. Apparently the “you have to mean it,” part doesn’t apply to all offensive spells?
Yeah, just the 3 “unforgivables”, Avada Kedavra (death), Crucio (pain) and Imperio (control). Also iirc it was Crucio Harry tried to cast at Bellatrix, not the killing curse. Though imo memory erasure/editing magic should also be unforgivable, it’s just as bad
Also I think the killing curse shouldn’t be illegal in the case of informed consent, it’s a lot less cruel than letting someone die of disease, it’s instant and painless - even Dumbledore chooses to die from it
Nah, it happens even when Voldemort was using Lucius Malfoy’s wand. The same core thingy only causes the wand to rewind the spell history backwards. Not sure how that would work outside of Avada Kedavra.
Why did they just both insta-die? Shouldn’t the green energy shit have collided and made a nice spectacle like they did in the movie? 🤔
The spectacle in the movie and book was explained in the book. That only happened because Harry and Voldy were basically the same person as far as the magic was concerned. When Voldy killed Harry’s mom, he inadvertently made Harry his horcrux by trying, and failing to kill Harry. So basically one person was trying to kill themselves, and that caused the backfire. Also Harry didn’t cast Avada Kedavera in that duel. He cast his signature spell, Expelliarmus.
Basically there was some “chosen one,” stuff going on there. With anyone else, if both wizards get the spell off, both would be dead.
ETA: technically Harry failed to kill Bellatrix the only time he attempted Avada Kedavera. She got hit by a green blast and laughed at him telling him, “you have to mean it Potter, you can’t just say it!”
Wait so if Malfoy and him had shot energy at each other during their duel, they wouldn’t have collided?
As far as I am aware that would be correct. Also, see my edit to the previous comment.
I’m actually kinda surprised that he was able to Septumspectra Malfoy that one time. Apparently the “you have to mean it,” part doesn’t apply to all offensive spells?
Yeah, just the 3 “unforgivables”, Avada Kedavra (death), Crucio (pain) and Imperio (control). Also iirc it was Crucio Harry tried to cast at Bellatrix, not the killing curse. Though imo memory erasure/editing magic should also be unforgivable, it’s just as bad
Also I think the killing curse shouldn’t be illegal in the case of informed consent, it’s a lot less cruel than letting someone die of disease, it’s instant and painless - even Dumbledore chooses to die from it
That only happened because the wands both were using were from the same dragon or aardvark or whathaveyou.
Nah, it happens even when Voldemort was using Lucius Malfoy’s wand. The same core thingy only causes the wand to rewind the spell history backwards. Not sure how that would work outside of Avada Kedavra.
Ah, got my shenanigans mixed up. Danke!