The Hungarian prime minister concedes to Péter Magyar, who is set to win a supermajority in the 199-seat parliament.

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    16 days ago

    thing is, you’re comparing to america. America can’t vote their way out of their situation because the whole system is set up to prevent it, it would take decades of dedicated work to undo the conditioning of the populace and start making it even remotely feasible for an actual good candidate to be elected.

    Now, that’s not to say that america can’t vote their way out of things on a local level, that’s actually one of the best bets available to them, but still even then Zohran’s victory in NYC (which by all accounts was kind of revolutionary) was only with him getting 50% of votes. The democrats did everything they could to keep a notorious sexual harasser in power instead.

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      16 days ago

      Well, first of all, no I’m not just talking about America. There are tons of leftists on here who argue that voting is hopeless any time an authoritarian rises to power, and seem to believe the only solution is a violent revolution that they are not planning (not that I’m trying to bait anyone or fed-posting, but I doubt the people spending 16 hours a day debating Neo-Marxism versus Anarchist Communism are also forming a militia).

      Second of all, you’re saying that the American system is set up to prevent voting out fascism, but what you’re describing is learned helplessness, not institutional restrictions. Learned helplessness is powerful, but I’m rapidly seeing it being unlearned since Trump took office. Republicans who’ve been ignoring economic issues for identity politics suddenly seem sick of hearing about wokeness. Liberal wine moms who held up, “But her emails,” signs in 2017 want Chuck Schumer’s blood. The other day I saw the fucking Mueller She Wrote account slamming Dick Durbin for saying, “reform,” ICE instead, “abolish.”

      In terms of the institutions, there are a lot of measures against direct democracy that make reforms more difficult, but the structure of our elections have huge advantages. The constitution gives power of our federal elections squarely with the states, which is why Trump is having so much trouble rigging the elections. His current plan seems to be, “send ICE to intimidate voters,” and based on Minneapolis, that’s not an effective strategy.

      Even the bigger obstacles are mostly imaginary. Congressional gridlock can easily be overcome by leadership willing to abolish the filibuster. Supreme Court members can be impeached, and the Court can be expanded by Congress. There are institutional, Democratic solutions to this, we just have to stop pretending they’re too difficult.

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      15 days ago

      Orban absolutely rigged the system against voting out of their situation. And they’re not there yet, either. This vote was the first step, but they’ve overcome a huge hurdle.