Fuck Nintendo
Yeah, literally nobody in my circle of gamer friends and acquaintances has any interest whatsoever in buying the new Switch. Not a single one. Not even the ones that were previously diehard Nintendo and Zelda fans.
Zero.
Crap like this is really underscoring why. Nintendo has ramped up their already user-hostile behavior far beyond the point of absurdity.
The happy-fluffy-starry-eyed wording in this article taking great pains to point out how “easy” it was for this person to have their fraudulent ban reversed are doing way too much heavy lifting. It never should have happened in the first place, and there shouldn’t even be any mechanism that makes it a remote possibility.
And then there’s this:
Nevertheless, it remains unclear whether they can still play with the used game cartridges they purchased, or if these are considered pirated copies that could result in another console ban if used.
Uh-huh. Miss me with every single molecule of that shit.
Holy crap that was a fast reply lol. The part where they were like “at least it’s not as bad as m$ and Sony” like bruh THEY SHOULDNT BE DOING THIS AT ALL
This is significantly worse than anything I’ve experienced from Microsoft. I’ve never heard stories of consoles just getting bricked. I’m sure they exist, but it didn’t make the news from frequency. Consoles shouldn’t be bricked.
Just to clarify, the console wasn’t bricked, only banned from online use. Which also means banned from accessing eshop or downloading any updates. But physical games that doesn’t require online would work fine.
Not that this is fine, shouldn’t be banned for this either, but just clarifying the bricking part.
I wonder if a banned console could download a game from a game key card, because if it can’t, then there’s not much of a difference between a ban and a brick.
It can’t download a game from game key card.
For future games yeah, but there’s a huge Switch 1 library that a banned system can play but bricked system can’t.
Also funnily enough, I believe they can safely play the “backed-up” games offline, that originally got the Switch banned. 😀
But physical games that doesn’t require online would work fine.
Do we know this for sure? On the original Switch, when new games came out, they often would refuse to play until you updated the firmware on the console. So depending on whether they allow banned consoles to update their firmware, offline games might not work either.
Ah, I see. I’ve been hearing stories of them getting bricked as well. Unrelated, but controller drift problems were reported on day 2. I would like to recommend abstaining from the purchase of any Nintendo products for the forseeable future. Seems like they hate their customers and aren’t really willing to change, no matter what. Zelda and Mario are pretty cool, but I think that at this point, Nintendo is just running on nostalgia and brand recognition.
Do you have any sources for those bricked consoles you’ve heard of?
I’ve heard of a recent update to their ToS, where people have mentioned the possibility of Nintendo bricking consoles, but haven’t actually seen any examples.Excellent question. Apparently, after having looked into everything, they haven’t been bricking, just banning. As someone else said, it basically does the same thing for most people, as you can’t get updates or access the store. Another person said that the keycards don’t work either. Honestly, I don’t really care if half of the unproven stuff is untrue. The $80 games were the first thing to piss me off.
I was going to post this in the root of the comments but then I saw yours, so I copy-pasted it and attached it in the hopes that we can get a Fuck Nintendo train going.
Heaven forfend we want the little pieces of plastic and silicon to have a life after we get bored of them.
There is no issue with selling them. The issue is with cloning the games, selling them, and then keep playing them, which is basically pirating the content.
Nintendo still shouldn’t ban the buyers, but this isn’t about not allowing resale after you have played or gotten bored of the game.
I had a friend that went to the store at midnight to get the Nintendo he pre ordered… Some people just don’t care unfortunately
Imagine buying a hardware, and the manufacturer holds it hostage and can brick it anytime, or it can ban you from all online activities, unless you use it as intended.
It just happens that intended use also maximises profit for them.
Fuck Nintendo sideways.
Imagine paying $450 for nintendo to play judge and jury over your property
Damn. The people who work at Nintendo truly are assholes. I’ll never buy a single product associated with these morally and creatively bankrupted people.
I swear Nintendo is the reason for the stereotypes about Japanese businessmen. Delusionally prideful, psychotically controlling, aggressively narcissistic, and entirely ass backwards.
Imagine if this happened to a child, or someone who’s got no knowledge about the topic. Your 600$ birthday gift will just rest in piss, because you bought a game someone had cloned previously, and there’s 0 way to know about it, until you’re already banned
While I still have a nostaligic soft spot for Nintendo IPs like Mario and Metroid, I’ll never give Nintendo a cent again for being a bunch of greedy asshats. Emulators are love, emulators are life, fuck Nintendo.
Nintendo is going to die a slow painful death bcz of shit like this. I dont know a single person who wants a switch 2.
I’m far from a fanboy, but it’s literally the fastest selling console of all time.
I’m glad to find good reasons for misanthropy even in the small things.
If you don’t know anyone, could you point me to a store that has them in stock?
I found one on launch week. Didn’t seem hard.
I do have to say I saw one in stock in a Target 2 hours away from me. Of course by the time I was ready to drive up there it was sold out.
I’ve been to several stores at open and I have yet to get one when they arrive.
I’d look, but i dont want a switch 2. Yes, I get it, its a sold out console right now…
Constantly sold out here in Japan. Even the discounted Japan-only version that was meant to stop foreign purchase and resale with more restrictions such as Japanese-language-only
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The Sega Saturn was the bomb. Granted I was 5, but still loved it.
🏴☠️
I got one as a gift, but I’m not sure why they’re selling so well. I haven’t bought a single new game for it yet. There’s nothing I wanna play until maybe Metroid.
I’d just turn it off and keep it offline so that you’re on the lowest possible firmware for potential future exploits
Then 🏴☠️
Smart!
From what I’ve been seeing in the Switch Hacking groups, you might be waiting a very long time. Nintendo has the kernel locked down very tight. I’m hoping that a vulnerability becomes exploitable but those that know more than I are less hopeful
Yea, it might be a wait. I picked up a launch unit just for the purpose of future exploits. I’m just leaving it sealed on a shelf, worst case, I can probably get back what I paid for it in a few years since sealed Nintendo stuff holds their value decently enough.
Like most other people seem to feel about, there’s just not enough of a pull for me to want to play it LMAO
Especially since I already haven’t played my fully modded Switch 1 in a few months as is xD
Well, launch year sales are generally by enthusiasts. I got one cause I love my Switch, and my wish for Switch 2 was faster and better Switch, which is exactly what they gave us. So, bought it as soon as I could.
As for games, looking forward to Donkey Kong Bananza, not to mention I have a many Switch 1 games that I have yet to play, so don’t have any shortage of games.
Yeah, I’m appreciating how quickly the Switch games are loading. Smash, Zelda, and Splatoon used to frustrate me a bit with their load times.
They can arbitrarily disable your switch 2 faster and better than ever before!
New DK game this week looks sick though
Given how the game sales have been going, I’d say a good chunk of its sales are to scalpers.
I just had an interesting exchange with a nintendrone about this topic. Apparently, nintendo did the right thing because the guy who bought the game shouldn’t go buying from shady people and, even if it was a store, then, the store is at fault (and not Nintendo), because the store should test the games they buy to guarantee that they won’t cause a ban.
But in no way was Nintendo at fault for treating their customers as guilty until proven innocent.
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Same would happen with the Switch 1 if you play pirated games through sigpatch though
And with the 3DS, if you didn’t strip the headers from games you ripped and played them on a different console
I’ve been enjoying PC games a lot even though I have a Switch 1. I might even repurchase Balatro on Steam.
Like Terraria is hell on Switch, so I’ve already eaten that cost so why not for the other 3rd-party games I have?
I’ve stated repurchasing my Switch games on Steam (when rebates apply)
My switch games were all digital copies except for Zelda and Sea of Stars. I don’t know if they’ll even be available in the future should I accidentally delete them.
Eventually I might mod my Switch when it’s not supported anymore by Nintendo and it doesn’t connect to their network anymore.
Unless the game is delisted, which happens very rarely, or they shutdown Switch 1 eshop, which shouldn’t happen for quite a while, I don’t think there’s any reason why you won’t be able to download them again.
Of course if you are using modded Switch, that’s another issue.
The problem is that someday they’ll shut down the eShop.
Eventually it will be shut down. And if they just released the Switch 2, it means it’s coming soon.
Not necessarily. Switch 2 seems to be using the same eshop at the backend, just like PS5 and PS4 use the same system, so don’t think Switch eshop will be shutting down soon.
But yeah, eventually they will shut it down.
It’s just not nearly as nefarious as it sounds. This person basically won the anti-lottery of buying a used game that was ripped and distributed on a piracy site and flagged by Nintendo. The chances of that happening when you buy a used game are unlikely as fuck… but because it can happen to individuals, they asked for a little proof that this user was telling the truth and then unbanned him when he provided it.
This isn’t something that’s going to happen to many people realistically but it’s nice that there’s a solution if it does.
It’s guilty until proven innocent on a device the person owns enforced by the company that made it.
Fuck that.
No company should have the power to brick a device because it isn’t being used the way they want.
So I also don’t like any of this and wish Nintendo would loosen the fuck up in general as they take in record profits… but I stand firm on the fact that this isn’t as nefarious as some are making it out to be, like they are specifically going after used games sales. It also won’t affect pretty much any of us ever and therefore isn’t worth getting my feathers ruffled over any. If it happens it can be sorted out relatively quickly.
They shouldn’t be “going after” any game sales. All they are going to do is punish legitimate customers while the ones ACTUALLY stealing/pirating are going to sail free.
You really think a grandma that gets some games from a garage sale for their grandson or granddaughter is going to be happy when a game happens to be a pirated copy and bricks their device?
But they aren’t going after used games sales. They are going after piracy. This used card just so happened to be the exact one ripped and uploaded to a piracy site, so on Nintendo’s end it looks like they are using a Mig flash device to play a game backup. So it’s not an attack on anybody for buying used games but a very unlikely and unfortunate incident that was solved with a phone call. If grandma happens to pick up a copy of a previously ripped game at a garage sale (amusing to imagine the guy who ripped it holding one of those in the year 2025 but possible) then a polite phone call explaining that situation would have also likely worked because I’m sure Nintendo wants to avoid the shit show of actually permanently banning innocent people.
Again, I’d prefer that Nintendo just relax on all of this but I’m not going to get all mad about it. Even the user who it happened to is less angry than some of you and said customer service was very fast and friendly about helping him. It will never ever happen to anyone in this thread or anybody that we know and even if it did it will be sorted out. I’ll save my outrage for things that are actually outrageous.
I don’t want to play a numbers game with factors I have no control over, nor visibility into.
Lots of things in life are a numbers game you have no control over, often with consequences much worse than being temporarily inconvenienced having a ten minute interaction with customer service. Better never get into a car or airplane again, eh?
If you’re worried, save your store receipts or screenshots of listings for used Switch games and then this can be sorted in the very, very unlikely situation that this will happen to you. But it won’t.
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That’s interesting because I rarely use my steam deck because of my switch 1 and 2. Seems like this is almost… Hmmm… Personal preference. Something like that
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You know you’re comparing steam deck (2022) to an 8 year old console that’s about 2 times smaller and has better battery life, right? Also Cyberpunk 2077 is way better on switch 2.
Do you really buy Nintendo consoles for something other than first party Nintendo games? Why?
I do because it’s a simpler and more streamlined system and fits significantly better into my lifestyle. The extra portability is a big plus, too.
Don’t know what their message was that they deleted, but I play tons of third party games on Switch. It’s my go-to for any indies, or long RPGs. Even for general gaming, as long as the performance and visuals aren’t a major downgrade from other consoles, I prefer to play that on Switch.
The message was “I have found that anything but first party Nintendo games are better on steam deck. I’m playing persona 4 on deck after playing half of it on switch 1 and just the resolution alone makes it so much better.”
Ah, okay. Thanks.
I’m sure many people play third party games on their Switch (as do I) but that wasn’t the question I was asking. The deleted message was along the lines of “buy a Steam Deck, it’s better for everything except first party games”, so I wanted to know if they specifically bought it to play third party games.
