Twitch does this quite often, I don’t know why they get called bans either. Nonpermanent “bans” are a thing, but in the case of a widely used service like Twitch I think it’d make more sense to call them suspensions like you said.
Suspensions doesn’t really work well in this context, they’re temp bans - an account being suspended means frozen
That’s not what happens here. It’s effectively temporarily removed - subscriptions aren’t paused, they’re refunded
Suspended also might come with implications - maybe something is under review, maybe you haven’t used it for too long and have to reactivate it, maybe you are limited to things you can do with it. It implies action on your part
Ban means go away. Temp ban means go away for a while. And they want that message - they don’t want people to appeal or their followers on twitch to mass email them
I think the real problem is bans get lifted, we hear it happen fairly often. So we have perma bans, which means “seriously, you’re banned forever, we’re destructively altered your account”
I mean from a linguistic perspective. A ban is permanent (or at least long-term in the since that it might take a very long time for a ban to be removed).
Yeah, I was really confused when the game Brighter Shores first entered early access with its initial aggressive chat moderation system (because it’s out of the UK law and the liability on their part is insane I guess) and a bunch of people were like “seriously? I got banned for this.”
Nobody was getting banned, they were getting temporarily muted and calling it a ban.
I feel like “ban” is a term that used to have a really clear meaning: you can no longer use this service. Now, it seems like that word is increasingly being abused to just mean: the service stopped me from doing something I wanted to do.
Doesn’t a ban imply a ban, i.e. permanent removal? This seems like a suspension.
Twitch does this quite often, I don’t know why they get called bans either. Nonpermanent “bans” are a thing, but in the case of a widely used service like Twitch I think it’d make more sense to call them suspensions like you said.
Suspensions doesn’t really work well in this context, they’re temp bans - an account being suspended means frozen
That’s not what happens here. It’s effectively temporarily removed - subscriptions aren’t paused, they’re refunded
Suspended also might come with implications - maybe something is under review, maybe you haven’t used it for too long and have to reactivate it, maybe you are limited to things you can do with it. It implies action on your part
Ban means go away. Temp ban means go away for a while. And they want that message - they don’t want people to appeal or their followers on twitch to mass email them
I think the real problem is bans get lifted, we hear it happen fairly often. So we have perma bans, which means “seriously, you’re banned forever, we’re destructively altered your account”
So ban is now gaining a conditional implication
Lemmy also has this!
I mean from a linguistic perspective. A ban is permanent (or at least long-term in the since that it might take a very long time for a ban to be removed).
Yeah, I was really confused when the game Brighter Shores first entered early access with its initial aggressive chat moderation system (because it’s out of the UK law and the liability on their part is insane I guess) and a bunch of people were like “seriously? I got banned for this.”
Nobody was getting banned, they were getting temporarily muted and calling it a ban.
I feel like “ban” is a term that used to have a really clear meaning: you can no longer use this service. Now, it seems like that word is increasingly being abused to just mean: the service stopped me from doing something I wanted to do.
It means you are not allowed any more. We can use temp ban or timeout or mute etc. For the same. If we want to specify forever, we can say perma ban.
I imagine these online platforms have various gradations of bans and suspensions, but I haven’t modded anything since 2007 so I wouldn’t know