• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    The fact that people actually believe that this is all the democrats are currently doing clearly illustrates exactly why we had so many protest voters.

    It seems as if the far left won’t ever be convinced of anything unless it-

    A) Agrees with what they already believe
    B) Is in an easy-to-read meme format
    C) Comes from their communal clipboard of copypasta marxist rhetiric.

    I’m incredibly angry that trump won, but not at all surprised. These people make up not just a portion of our voting body, but also a huge portion of our NON-voting body.

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      The Democratic Party is in a timeloop for thirty years if they believe that courting centrists and right wing voters still work in the age of growing wealth inequality. Actually, forget that, the Democrats still want to court centrists and the right in order to send signal to the true rulers that are oligarchs, that they are just as right wing as the Republicans in order to keep receiving corporate donations and make money from stocks.

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      What are they doing? Wait I’ll do you one better. What else can they do, but re-evaluate what they’ve been doing?

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        Google “Democrats” then select the “News” tab. That’ll get you going in the right direction.

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          looks at news.google.com

          searches for democrats

          finds infighting and fingerpointing at everyone besides their rich donors who control them and force them to ignore leftist policies

          So nothing, they’re whining and doing nothing

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              I don’t see why you were down voted regardless of what they found this is true. we only see what we want to see

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                Just like their protest votes, they think downvoting is somehow relevant. And also just like their downvotes, they lack the courage it takes to actually put their name on their choice and own the fact that not liking something isn’t enough to create the change you demand of others- it takes both work, and communication.

                Not staying home and folding arms in defiance of a system incapable of being perfect in their eyes.

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                  Is it the leftists folding their arms and refusing to move or is it the Democrats? Last I checked, one is an actual fucking organization who deliberately chose to give the middle finger to immigrants by running on trump 2016 policy, middle finger to middle eastern and in general genocide haters by continuing to arm an active genocide and then belittle those people, and run with lizz fucking cheny cause they thought they could win the “centrists” and were fucking wrong.

                  But nooo. Let’s not blame the organization with the plan that didn’t fucking work. Let’s blame the analogous concept of “disgruntled leftists” and babify them, belittle them, and do the whole clusterfuck of mistakes again.

                  Except you ain’t even some Democrat analysis. Your a random fucking dude who’s just scared as shit of the fascism barreling down at you at speeds that boggle the mind. I get it. Shits scary. Me and you, we are cool. We can be friends, politically allies. But the way to do that is to yell at the organization who failed both of us. Not tell them they did nothing wrong and that it’s actually the thing that cannot be changed fault.

                  Do I wish we could of come out and voted to slow down the train? Of course. But it didn’t happen. And with clear eyes I can see that ultimately it was the Dems who gambled that they could win without those groups and were fucking wrong.

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              I’ve voted Dem my entire life, my entire life the Dems have never meaningfully improved anything except for medicare and I don’t qualify for that.

              I get it that the Dems are the ones who push policy, just to conviently break ranks and vote down their own bills whenever there is actually bills that force the rich to make concessions.

              The Duopoly works together to maintain power

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                the Dems have never meaningfully improved anything except for medicare and I don’t qualify for that.

                We will see what we want to see, but if you bothered yourself to look up from the year of your birth to now- what the democrats have done, you’d be embarrassed to have sad this.

                Not arguing futility. We can agree to disagree and end this cordially.

                Have a good day my friend.

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                  You say Democrats are constantly pushing legislation that fixes real problems and doesn’t just get undone every 4 years and set back to 0. What was something good that Biden did thatbis still around and actually helping people?

                  When people don’t meaningfully improve society and fix problems, that means they aren’t helpful.

                  Sorry you feel differently.

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                    You say democrats aren’t consistently pushing legislation that fixes real problems because you aren’t seeing the effect of it.

                    Maybe stop looking at what you want to see, and humble yourself enough to see the things that prove you wrong.

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            Would it be better If I put it in a meme that they were actually doing shit?

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              Well I won’t say they’re not doing anything. It’s their job, obviously they’re playing defense to Republican insanity. And re-evaluating what they’ve been doing thus far is not a bad thing to be doing by any means if they have any hope of winning next time around. But do you genuinely think they’re doing enough to protect their constituency? The underprivileged masses that entrusted their valuable vote to them?

              DEIA initiatives are being suspended, the military is posted up on the border, undocumented abuelitas are getting ICE’d and America has affirmed its role as a rogue element to its European allies by implying its willingness to annex Greenland. That’s just the first week of what the opposition has cooked up. Are you seeing resistance in equal amount?

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                Hey, if you have a fix, let them know! Because until you know how things work so well as to be able to legally undermine trump’s grifting and unconstitutional bullshit- maybe keep the accusations to a minimum.

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                  If I hire a lawyer to represent me in court and they ask me “Alright chief, got any idea how we’re gonna get you out of this mess?”, I probably hired a shitty layer, right? I’m not accusing anyone of anything, I’m merely stating that I’m not seeing much being done by them in response to trump doing the trump things he said he’d do a year or so ago.

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                    But that’s not what is happening here. So, maybe try a different point?