• AAA@feddit.org
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    The claim to have “nothing to hide” was not just born our of ignorance, but also out of comfort - to not having to do anything about it.

    Now that even the last one accepted that they do indeed have something to hide, but in order to justify their own inaction, it’s labeled as inevitable: privacy is not real.

    They are lying to themselves, because doing otherwise would mean they have to admit being wrong.

  • NaNin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    A lot of people have just accepted surviellance for convienience.

    People close to me get TSA precheck even though it requires fingerprinting, because “the government already has your fingerprints”

    But if they did, why would they need to ask your for them?

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      Depending on what people do, the government already has their fingerprints.

      Personally, I work around schools so I had to get a background check and fingerprinted for that. I also am licensed to handle explosives, both federally and at the state level. I been fingerprinted for that. I’ve gone through TSA for hazmat endorsement on a commercial driver’s license. That needed fingerprints and a background check.

      Getting fingerprinted to get through airport security is the least of my privacy concerns.

      But my threat model isn’t the TSA. They aren’t a concern of mine, although I do opt out of their facial recognition.

      I am concerned with internet surveillance, corporate surveillance, and communication surveillance.

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      If you’ve gone to jail they totally have your prints already. Fingerprints are identifying information for such a thing. How else would they do that?

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    Off-topic, but I do agree in general that Edge is a solid browser. I use it when I’m at work and really love the vertical tabs and tab groups. I use firefox for personal use and am patiently waiting for the vertical tabs on the stable release (and not just in about:config).

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    I do fall into that way of thinking sometimes and in discussions and such, but even then, i still take steps to maintain a level of privacy. It’s for stupid reasons, I’m admittedly not knowledgeable whatsoever on data privacy. (As in, why is it necessary since we already carry a lot of data collection devices with us as we go around that I know most people dont even think about.) But it makes me just feel better, I guess.

    Most of my friends have actually moved away from Firefox to more tailored browsers like opera, which i think is much worse in terms of data protection. (again, uninformed. It’s just something I’ve seen thrown around, feel free to correct me if that’s wrong.) At times, it really is quite easy to start thinking like the people highlighted in the post. I’m 22, and have a degree in computer science. There was a module on data security, but it was mostly focussed on data leaks and encryption methods rather than the ‘philosophy’ on why data protection is important. Even in the final year of uni, people were being quite flippant with it.

    It’s probably just a cultural shift, as more and more companies collect mass amounts of user data, people gradually get more comfortable with the idea I guess. Especially with gen alpha, who are born into a world where it’s just a fact that all companies are actively farming your data. To them, it’s not something to be concerned about whatsoever. There was never a time in which they had privacy, especially since they are introduced to technology before they can even speak, write, or remember.

    What I’ve put above is mostly just waffle honestly, but I hope it provides something to someone LMAO.

    Edit to add stuff: I guess to make the point more obvious, for younger generations it’s because privacy just isn’t real for them.

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      Bro’s from the timeline where Flash became the dominant species.

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    A similar argument I hear is “If they want me, they will find and arrest me no matter my precautions”.

    Kinda yes… But why are you talking about threat models that include someone deliberately hunting you down? We are not high-ranking dissidents or criminals that they would put effort and money into finding. Our concern is passive surveillance - maybe the collected info doing us a disservice (like being leaked for scammers or sold to an evil ex), maybe even something mundane getting flagged and us being arrested just to serve as an example.

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        Yes. There are a lot of reasons why any one of us could turn into a high value target at the drop off a hat. If not to a government, then to an organisation or a lone lunatic.

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      Yes some subreddit is piviting hard captalism recently, giving up their dignity to defend corporations with their life.