Donald Trump said on Monday that his administration would declare a national emergency and use the US military to carry out mass deportations of undocumented immigrants.

In an early morning social media post, Trump responded “TRUE!!!” to a post by Tom Fitton, the president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, who wrote on 8 November that the next administration “will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program”.

Since his decisive victory, Trump has said he intends to make good on his campaign promise to execute mass deportations, beginning on the first day of his presidency. But many aspects of what he has described as the “largest deportation program in American history” remain unclear.

Trump has previously suggested he would rely on wartime powers, military troops and sympathetic state and local leaders. Such a sprawling campaign – and the use of military personnel to carry it out – is almost certain to draw legal challenges and pushback from Democratic leaders, some of whom have already said they would refuse to cooperate with Trump’s deportation agenda.

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    9 hours ago

    We have plenty of examples of soldiers merrily war-criming their way into history in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    It doesn’t matter how many power points you watch, it doesn’t make a soldier not a soldier, and soldiers are defined by signing up to maybe do a bit of unprovoked violence.
    They may or may not get punished for it later, but the sheer number of civilian casualties in both those wars makes it abundantly clear that killing civilians isn’t the hard line we like to think it is. We just need to tell the pilot that it’s a valid target, and chances are they’ll bomb that wedding.

    Humans are pretty willing to do messed up stuff in war. All that training is what gets you to the point where it’s a coin toss, and not perfect willingness to engage in collective punishment, reprisal killing, intimidation murder or just plain “shooting through the windshields of cars for fun”.

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      Soldiers are humans, and the average human is an evil sack of shit, so yeah there will always be new atrocities. The immigrant thing doesn’t really come down to the individual soldier though, it comes down to military leadership acting on or ignoring an order from Trump… and that outlook doesn’t leave me much hope, cuz military leadership doesn’t give a fuck about doing the right thing, just the legal thing.

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        I mean, the human will to evil and the military leadership being willing to listen to political evil are in alignment in this case. So if the military is ordered to do some camps, they’re gonna do some camps.

        You just always here a lot of talk about how much the military is focused on not doing atrocities, and it’s tossed out as a knowing trump card whenever talk of the military doing stuff on US soil comes up.
        “The army would never torch a subdivision in Milwaukee, the houses look like their houses, the people look like them, and they get too much training telling them not to evil in specific ways in specific contexts”. It misses that the same people who explained the rules are the ones who’ll be telling them to do the evil, and that our soldiers aren’t better or worse than any other, morally. And soldiers regularly do evil in places that look like their homes, to people who look like their families.

        The integrity of the military is just not a barrier to them being used to do bad things ™ domestically.