It’s not toxicity to make an observation on forces that drove voters to not vote for harris.
To the first point I made. There is 0 evidence for this what-so-ever. This is just something you are making up to support a narrative. You have not even the suggestion of evidence to back this statement up.
The toxicity is a culture looking for punching bags rather than showing real introspection. Third parties were utterly irrelevant, and most of the “conversation” around them, were deeply toxic Blue-Maggots blaming them in advance for Harris’s yet-to-be-failed election. I mean, its the definition of the thread we’re in. Its what the comic is about.
Its literally absurdist. Everything you’ve said, the comic, the entire cult that you are a part of: its in direct opposition to all of the evidence we have.
And thats why I’m making these points, not because I expect to convince you, but because its important to put your, now obviously detached from reality, toxic approach to rhetoric, on display.
The blaming of third parties, or anti-war voters, or Muslims, or whichever punching down group you want to single out, on behalf of a Democratic party so severely detached from its own base, is the definition of Blue-MAGA behavior, and it lost the Democrats the 2024 election. Its all on tape. We’ve got it on record. Blue MAGA was told what the consequences of their rhetoric would be while they were doing it, so they can’t pretend to be naive to the consequences we all now have to experience because of their stupendous arrogance.
What? Single issue voters absolutely were important … Gaza for one.
I’m not fucking talking about 3rd party candidates or platforms, my God
Edit ultimately introspection comes second because this was a “vote for bad or worse” election and no matter the cause, no matter if you think someone or bluemaga or the moon is to blame, folks rolled the dice instead of avoiding trump. It’s not victimizing to discuss that decisions have consequences.
I just want you to know how much I appreciate you continuously putting on the kind of behavior I’m trying to describe on display. Its going to make an easily accessible record for future generations to develop an understanding both why and how the Democratic party, their voices in media, and their sycophants in forums and on social media sacrificed the project of western Democracy for a self-serving circle jerk to avoid personal accountability for the obvious and inevitable consequences of their actions.
Personal accountability? Hilarious. Next 4 years will have enough of that for everyone. It’s great to imagine being clean because of an opinionated stance but that’s not real life.
The suggestion that abstainers or stein posters represented real opportunity to avoid trump in say, October 2024 is the most ivory tower dream ive ever seen. (I am not quoting you on that, I am discussing the sentiment that optionality existed in a general election year in a FPTP entrenched duopoly.)
Edit constructively, as I previously mentioned, 3rd party change needs to happen now, in 2025, to grow consensus and post results. That will represent positive change.
It’s funny that you think I’m all in on big-DNC, but the reality is I am just eyes open on the choices I had in this election. And am aware of the consequences we now have at hand.
To the first point I made. There is 0 evidence for this what-so-ever. This is just something you are making up to support a narrative. You have not even the suggestion of evidence to back this statement up.
The toxicity is a culture looking for punching bags rather than showing real introspection. Third parties were utterly irrelevant, and most of the “conversation” around them, were deeply toxic Blue-Maggots blaming them in advance for Harris’s yet-to-be-failed election. I mean, its the definition of the thread we’re in. Its what the comic is about.
Its literally absurdist. Everything you’ve said, the comic, the entire cult that you are a part of: its in direct opposition to all of the evidence we have.
And thats why I’m making these points, not because I expect to convince you, but because its important to put your, now obviously detached from reality, toxic approach to rhetoric, on display.
The blaming of third parties, or anti-war voters, or Muslims, or whichever punching down group you want to single out, on behalf of a Democratic party so severely detached from its own base, is the definition of Blue-MAGA behavior, and it lost the Democrats the 2024 election. Its all on tape. We’ve got it on record. Blue MAGA was told what the consequences of their rhetoric would be while they were doing it, so they can’t pretend to be naive to the consequences we all now have to experience because of their stupendous arrogance.
What? Single issue voters absolutely were important … Gaza for one.
I’m not fucking talking about 3rd party candidates or platforms, my God
Edit ultimately introspection comes second because this was a “vote for bad or worse” election and no matter the cause, no matter if you think someone or bluemaga or the moon is to blame, folks rolled the dice instead of avoiding trump. It’s not victimizing to discuss that decisions have consequences.
I just want you to know how much I appreciate you continuously putting on the kind of behavior I’m trying to describe on display. Its going to make an easily accessible record for future generations to develop an understanding both why and how the Democratic party, their voices in media, and their sycophants in forums and on social media sacrificed the project of western Democracy for a self-serving circle jerk to avoid personal accountability for the obvious and inevitable consequences of their actions.
Personal accountability? Hilarious. Next 4 years will have enough of that for everyone. It’s great to imagine being clean because of an opinionated stance but that’s not real life.
The suggestion that abstainers or stein posters represented real opportunity to avoid trump in say, October 2024 is the most ivory tower dream ive ever seen. (I am not quoting you on that, I am discussing the sentiment that optionality existed in a general election year in a FPTP entrenched duopoly.)
Edit constructively, as I previously mentioned, 3rd party change needs to happen now, in 2025, to grow consensus and post results. That will represent positive change.
It’s funny that you think I’m all in on big-DNC, but the reality is I am just eyes open on the choices I had in this election. And am aware of the consequences we now have at hand.