• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Its so hilarious how this ridiculously toxic culture around blaming third party was developed, worked on for months, and then when it came time, the impact of third parties was so utterly irrelevant as to be laughable.

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      The real beef was with stay home single EDIT issue folks who would otherwise be Dem voters.

      3rd party “voices” were annoying because they only punched at Dems, never at republicans. Interestingly, a few of them migrated to libertarian and conservative instances now

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        This is all just the same toxic projection that I’ve been pointing out in this thread.

        You want to blame third parties but there is basically 0, practically negative evidence for it.

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          No, I haven’t discussed 3rd parties at all in my comment. I said 3rd party “voices”, reading comprehension meaning “commenters/online personalities” because I noted their movement to new instances.

          Edit also note I had a typo in my above “single party” to 'single issue"

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              Splendid discussion as usual dingdong. Twist then pull up

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                  So much assuming.

                  My “toxicity” are legitimate concerns to not get trump, who will ramp everything up. Well look who’s here now.

                  As I said, single issue stay homes, and “alternative” voices that actually only served to strike at Dems are issues I believe shifted the narrative and may have influenced the election.

                  I made a thread to discuss other influences beyond just punching down at 3rd party platforms.

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                    Yes we heard you the first 3 times. Its the voters fault. The Democrats are merely victims, completely maladroit at managing their own fate.

                    You aren’t making different any new points or clarification, just repeating the same, tired tropes that just handed the US democracy over to fascism. And we get it, you are incapable of expanding your understanding beyond the initial assumptions you made. No need to repeat yourself any longer.

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        No, it was just part of a broader culture of infantalism demonstrated by Democratic apologists. There was no there there. Just people desperate for something to blame for their incompetence.

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          but like… if everyone is saying “don’t vote third party”, and the amount of third party votes significantly drops as a result, isn’t this what the result would look like?

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            There is a term for the act of only looking for evidence that confirms your bias. If the “strategy” worked, then why isn’t Kamala Harris president?

            And if that wasn’t the goal of the strategy, what point is it that you think was being made in the first place?

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              i have no idea what the strategy of the us democratic party was, I’m just reflecting on what i’ve on social media over the past month or so (a constant barrage of “don’t vote third party”) and comparing it to the results (very few people voting third party). of course there’s no way to know how much of that was due to said barrage, but we can for sure say that the people telling people to vote third party failed.