As they mention in the article they anticipated a much slower collapse and likely prepared for that. But at the rate it’s currently going, it’s quite astounding. The fragmentation and internal strife in Russia are certainly not over.
I did read one article that made a reference to this more being an “end of the beginning” rather than the “beginning of the end”. Which I agree with. It hasn’t collapsed the federation overnight, but it’s certainly weakened it a hell of a lot.
Living in Russia, I have mixed feelings about this slow controlled collapse TBF.
For Russia itself, maybe things being over after a couple of months (or years) of civil war starting in 1999 would be better.
But for everybody else, of course, there are bigger risks associated with that. Not really something nuclear even, just economically less pleasant.
Are you in Russia right now? How are things over there?
I really hate reportage like this. Every government, even seemingly incompetent ones like the current crop in the UK, have hundreds or thousands of contingency plans for things of wildly varying likelihood. This is just one of those things.
This is just as informative as those articles that say eating sugar triggers the same receptors as cocaine. Yes it’s true, but there aren’t that many reward mechanisms in the brain, so a lot of shit hits those same receptors.
It’s data and it’s true, but it’s not useful information.
We have a plan to invade literally every country and for if that country invades us that is updated regularly. I always found that kind of funny but it isn’t shocking.
Why would it be funny?
Having a plan for an unlikely event is not funny if having such a plan is your job. There are plenty of people who should do exactly that.
Because not having a plan for an unlikely event that bloody happens is, eh, negatively funny.
It’s like saying the police is preparing for thieves robbing the bank or the fire department preparing for a wildfire. It’s part of their job and it would be stranger not to have a contingency plan.
Consider the source. Pretty sure this is propaganda.
In their place i would rather prepare for scenario of unexpected collapse of United Kingdom.
To be fair, it’s not exactly an unexpected scenario.
I would even say, desired.
Fuck, this is reddit people :-D
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you are refering to as Reddit, is in fact Lemm or as I have recently taken to calling it The+Fediverse …
I meant ‘this is reddit people commenting on lemmy’, which means the fun has begun
The world will be a better place when British regime falls, no question about that.
Implying that there is a current regime.
Correct, it’s a regime that bans public protest and tortures journalists. If one of the designated enemies was caught doing what UK is doing then you’d wast no time calling it a regime.
Who says they have not prepared for that?
Considering their preparations for other things, like brexit or covid i would say LOL.
UK politicians never really seem prepared for anything tbh
Very unlikely scenario. Expected collapse on the other hand…
I mean, collapse of Russia is something very much expected in Russia by many people since 1993.
What makes it less expected is that it hasn’t happened in 30 years, though.
It was made into a film called Children of Men.
Great movie and accurately depicts brexit
If you’re preparing for it, is it really that “unexpected”…?
You can be prepared for all kinds of things you aren’t expecting. For example you could get occupational disablement insurance while not expecting to ever use it.
Maybe they’re preparing for it so it won’t be unexpected
My body is ready
The anticipatory poop challenge part deux.
Pravda really fell off
My grandpa was Ukrainian but considered himself Russian and worshipped Putin. I really wonder how this would have affected him. I honestly am partly glad he isn’t alive. It would really shake him.
He thought of Putin as the person who saved Russians from the fall of the USSR. Putin has done a lot lately to undermine the untarnishable image he had with certain kinds of people.
I really miss my grandpa now. He introduced me to a lot of new concepts and though his ideas were wrong they weren’t out dated or stupid.
I never would have done the things I’ve done if not for my grandpa and how his ideas shaped me.
Plan for a possible possible eventuality? That’ll be a first.
I assume there was a plan that Cameron got rid of because reasons and now they can’t find the PDF so they’ll have to do it again.
Someone couldn’t rotate it so they just deleted it and pretended it never came.
Regardless of the article, using the term “unexpected” is kind of naive at this point.
I suppose it’s unexpected because Putin would rather bomb his own citizens than allow a change of status quo.
Am I missing something or did nothing in the article match the title?
I thought it was; maybe the link you got was to the front page, or something? The article was mostly about how Prigozhin’s attempted coup (or whatever it was) surprised Western leaders, and a bunch of speculation about how the West is scrambling to prepare contingemcy plans. So the one I read seemed to match.
However, I think it was a fluff article, with little substance. Prigozhin has been agitating for weeks, and I seriously doubt MI6 (or the CIA) was surprised by his actions. Or that nobody has a contingency plan for chaos in Russia. Putin’s a dictator, and when dictators die, it’s rarely a peaceful transition of power.
“Some people in UK government maybe consider thinking about doing something because something happened”. Much better title.
It’s Pravda, literally the propaganda arm of the Ukrainian Government.
Aw shit here we go again
I sincerely do not understand why…
Maybe it’s your attitude and insulting manner? None of your arguments required your comments about “liberals”. Given those, it’s disingenuous to attribute the downvotes to your “facts”.
I know mexico is really worried…so they drink tequila and move on.
so they drink tequila and move on
based
Honestly I doubt that Putin will fall from power that easily. He seems to take nots of precautions and he has lots of friends
Looks old now. He will probably die anyway.
Even if there’s no coup/revolution/he doesn’t get assassinated/etc.
He’s 70, and very possibly not in the best health. Statistically it wouldn’t be very surprising if he dropped dead of natural causes at any moment. Technically he’s already a small anomaly of a Russian male just because he has lived as long as he has since their average life expectancy is currently something like 65 (which is admittedly skewed very young by a whole lot of stuff like drinking, drug use, suicide, and being shipped off to Ukraine) And even if he beats all odds and lives another 30 years it still shouldn’t be unexpected for him to just decide to step down and retire at some point. Shit, if I had a fraction of the money and assets he has, I’d have called it quits a long time ago and disappeared from the public view.
And when he goes, no matter how he goes, there’s going to be a power vacuum that needs to be filled and a whole lot of assholes jockeying for position. I won’t pretend to know how that will go, maybe there will be all-out civil war, maybe just a handful of the right people will fall out of windows or drink polonium tea or just get disappeared, maybe there will be a major economic collapse and a rise in crime rates, maybe everything will just be hunky-dory and it really was just Putin holding everything back and Russia will enter a new age of enlightenment (it will probably not be that last one)
Unexpected? I thought everyone was already expecting
