• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    Do you think the Democrats are worried that you’re going to vote Republican?

    Yes? That’s why they’re all about Dick Cheney.

    Nah, I think escape is possible, but we need to move away from the bigger flames. You’re the one who thinks standing still and letting the fire choose is the way to go – for some reason…

    Then you agree that escape is what matters and choosing the more comfortable flames to die in is not what’s important. There’s a difference between claiming “I can survive longer in these flames which will help me to escape” vs the previous position you were arguing for, “Forget escaping, what matters is these flames are more comfortable than those flames.”

    It sure does. It’s still moot in this context though.

    No it isn’t.

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      23 minutes ago

      Yes? That’s why they’re all about Dick Cheney.

      “The Democrats are all about this hardcore Republican as a means of capturing the Leftist vote”

      …huh?

      Then you agree that escape is what matters and choosing the more comfortable flames to die in is not what’s important.

      Yes I agree, your burning house analogy isn’t actually applicable to the scenario at hand (like the vegan analogy you keep doubling down on). That’s my bad for trying to take it in good faith.

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        8 minutes ago

        “The Democrats are all about this hardcore Republican as a means of capturing the Leftist vote”

        They are trying to appeal to right-leaning democrats and centrists who might consider voting republican. What I mean is that they are concerned about the possibility of their voters changing sides, not Leftists specifically.

        Yes I agree, your burning house analogy isn’t actually applicable to the scenario at hand

        Whether it is directly applicable or not isn’t important, and if you’re trying to take it that way, I guess that explains your absurd takes on it. The purpose of the analogy is to demonstrate that one thing can be marginally less bad than another, but both options still fundamentally unacceptable and not worthy of consideration. “Would you rather burn to death in these flames or those flames,” “Would you rather eat a bowl of rusty nails or a bowl of arsenic,” whatever, I could give you an answer if you really push me, but if you can’t take my answer and serve me one and expect me to accept it. Because the real answer is that both are fundamentally unacceptable, so which one is preferable doesn’t really matter.

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          They are trying to appeal to right-leaning democrats and centrists who might consider voting republican.

          Correct. What they are not concerned about is far-Leftists somehow becoming Republicans. Which is why your game of pressuring them by voting 3rd party in a federal election is ridiculous.

          Whether it is directly applicable or not isn’t important

          It doesn’t matter if your analogy is analogous? Gee, that explains a lot.

          The purpose of the analogy is to demonstrate that one thing can be marginally less bad than another, but both options still fundamentally unacceptable

          No shit. But it completely ignores the part where you are stuck with one of those “unacceptable” options no matter what.

          Every single one of your analogies conveniently ignores that vital factor.

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      10 hours ago

      How many different analogies and what-if scenarios does it take for you to finally have a valid point?

      Jesus man!

      The moment someone calls out your bullshit you move on to another ridiculous version of reality to try and mold into something that resembles an actual point-

      And you fail every time!