I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is ever downvoting you because of difference of intention.
Sorry to be the messenger BUT YOU ARE CONSTANTLY DISMISSED BECASE OF THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR ARGUMENT.
You aren’t really different in intention from anyone else you just end up with the shittiest take that no one can understand or relate to.
Like consider yourself in a room of liberal manifesto folks and all you can do is spout Hillary Clinton conspiracies… maybe the issue isn’t protecting kids… maybe it’s you?
One thing that the dishonest debaters like to do is come in and claim they really represent a group of people while proposing ideas that would result in serious harm to that group of people if implemented.
I pointed out how votes can be poisoned through the Schoolhouse Example elsewhere in this thread. A few votes in a weak location can result in all of us being ‘represented’ by people who mean to harm our interests.
There are two major factions vying for political control in the USA. Democrats are our ‘Left’ party, and yes, it’d be pretty darn Right in another country, but the US isn’t a Left-Leaning country by any measure, so the Dems are the best we can get. They represent a slow-walk towards the cliff of civil rights destruction, and yes, I’d love an alternative to them. But we must remember the Other Side – an Alt-Right Authoritarian Dictatorship in waiting, led by a convicted felon with a need for this office and a plan (Project 2025) for when he gets in that will result in real harms to workers and minorities – a full-tilt run at that cliff I mentioned before.
How can you claim to be pro-worker while depressing the turnout for the major party most favourable to workers? How can you claim to be pro-minority by making minorities stay home or vote third party? How can you do this knowing that Cheerleader will win 48/30/16 if you listen to the bogus memes being put out by Team Bookish Girl? You can’t…unless your goal is to ensure that the Democrats lose and thus giving the election to the Republicans and subjecting all of us to Project 2025.
I’d like to call these users out, but Rule 3 prevents me, even as these users refers to me and the rest of the actual pro-worker and pro-minorities ‘Blue MAGA’, but maybe this rational discussion can highlight what the threat from these dishonest debaters actually are.
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So basically accuse people of “the duopoly” or whatever. Great quotes:
“People are different and this is why everyone is wrong”
“Citing “Class war” means I don’t have to be accurate or even remotely correct”
“My fisher-price understanding of politics means there’s no room for debate…”
Something something about wrestling with a pig and how much they like getting everyone dirty…
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I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is ever downvoting you because of difference of intention.
Sorry to be the messenger BUT YOU ARE CONSTANTLY DISMISSED BECASE OF THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR ARGUMENT.
You aren’t really different in intention from anyone else you just end up with the shittiest take that no one can understand or relate to.
Like consider yourself in a room of liberal manifesto folks and all you can do is spout Hillary Clinton conspiracies… maybe the issue isn’t protecting kids… maybe it’s you?
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“Owner-class” = self defeating rhetoric.
We should all get past capitalistic BS. But self defeating BS only makes this harder
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What’s interesting is that I remember, supported, and know folks who participated in those protests…
None of them said what you say nor sounded as dumb as you do.
It’s weird knowing and interacting with that element while hearing you say dumb shit like this…
Like having an anarchists library on hand didn’t mean I had to deal with this level of dumb…
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One thing that the dishonest debaters like to do is come in and claim they really represent a group of people while proposing ideas that would result in serious harm to that group of people if implemented.
I pointed out how votes can be poisoned through the Schoolhouse Example elsewhere in this thread. A few votes in a weak location can result in all of us being ‘represented’ by people who mean to harm our interests.
There are two major factions vying for political control in the USA. Democrats are our ‘Left’ party, and yes, it’d be pretty darn Right in another country, but the US isn’t a Left-Leaning country by any measure, so the Dems are the best we can get. They represent a slow-walk towards the cliff of civil rights destruction, and yes, I’d love an alternative to them. But we must remember the Other Side – an Alt-Right Authoritarian Dictatorship in waiting, led by a convicted felon with a need for this office and a plan (Project 2025) for when he gets in that will result in real harms to workers and minorities – a full-tilt run at that cliff I mentioned before.
How can you claim to be pro-worker while depressing the turnout for the major party most favourable to workers? How can you claim to be pro-minority by making minorities stay home or vote third party? How can you do this knowing that Cheerleader will win 48/30/16 if you listen to the bogus memes being put out by Team Bookish Girl? You can’t…unless your goal is to ensure that the Democrats lose and thus giving the election to the Republicans and subjecting all of us to Project 2025.
I’d like to call these users out, but Rule 3 prevents me, even as these users refers to me and the rest of the actual pro-worker and pro-minorities ‘Blue MAGA’, but maybe this rational discussion can highlight what the threat from these dishonest debaters actually are.