It’s a failure of the media that they even bother reporting on what some Republican piece of trash has to say about the matter, as if they ever have anything but shit coming out of their mouths.
Rep. Dan Kildee, D-Mich., said in a statement that his office was forced to call Capitol Police for assistance because the protesters were “violently beating on the office doors […]”
Certain democrats could benefit from shutting the fuck up as well. There’s a god damn fucking genocide happening and these people are happily rolling out the carpet for murderers while complaining about noise in the hallway.
Fuck them all, and fuck this.
For good measure, here’s what violent disruption by 400 American Jews looks like in the Capitol:
Good thing American media makes sure not to show these horrible signs calling for violence to end.
so violent! I mean, those banners just hurt my eyes. I has a headache. Its assault! Assault!
(/s if it wasn’t obvious. I’m cheering these peeps on. wish I could be there.)
Coming from a still right leaning moderate, that conference was not only a waste of time, but the Israeli PM just straight up lied and told pandering stories about the few Israeli hostage incidents.
He even shamed the Hamas for using the Palestinians as human shields, when we literally have photo and video evidence of the IDF straight up tying Palestinians to the hood of their cars to deter rockets.
Love Jews, Hate Isreal.
Did they break the law?
I’m a pretty strong free speech advocate but if you’re going to engage in protest speech you should take the time to learn about well-established time/place/manner restrictions and not break other obvious laws.
Sidewalks are generally established free speech forums (there are others as well) and you should be able to say pretty much anything there. But you can’t stand on the sidewalk and smash car windows and assault people and complain about your speech being silenced when you’re arrested. I know that’s not at all what happened here, just an illustration.
That said, even if you’re doing everything correctly sometimes police will try to stop your speech if they don’t like it. Always record such police interactions.
Edit I’m not advocating blind obedience. Civil disobedience is necessary and good, but don’t be surprised when you get arrested. And if you think the laws they “broke” need to change, pressure your representatives to change it. But spoiler alert, both parties like being protected from protest inside the statehouses.
You know that black chick who refused to go to the back of the bus a few gens ago? Believe it or not, ILLEGAL!
Was she a criminal who should have “learned” to protest at the well-established time/place/manner? If no, check your conformism. Needing “approval” to protest is anti-democratic.
If you’re still not getting it — On a scale of peaceful to genocide, how “criminal” is sitting inside a building without approval?
I also believe in civil disobedience but everyone gets all surprised picachu face when people get arrested for breaking the law. Go ahead and do it, just don’t be surprised.
I find there’s often an agreement bias. If hundreds of Trump supporters had sat in the same time/place/manner on Jan 6 rather than what happened, would you have agreed with their arrest?
If hundreds of Trump supporters had sat in the same time/place/manner on Jan 6 rather than what happened, would you have agreed with their arrest?
Fuck no. And they didn’t.
Great response and I agree with you on both. People who showed up peacefully and broke no laws didn’t get arrested on Jan 6. But neither party is going to change the law to allow protests in our statehouses.
If they had sat around the building chanting, without beating police or any violence? Then it would’ve been a slightly larger nothing burger. Despite being a significantly dumber, unjustifiable, cause, the only legitimate concern is security for the people who have to work there and damage to property. Luckily anti-genocide protestors are 1000x less violent than insurrectionist fascists, so it’s not even a remotely valid comparison.
Getting arrested for doing nothing but decrying oppression and existing in the presence of Congress is kinda the point. Makes a bigger scene, catches media attention, gets shared, support grows.
Hell, I think peta is a clever marketing tactic to shift the Overton window. “I’m all for treating animals better, but those guys are assholes!” Same for the climate protestors who fuck up artwork. “we should absolutely fix the climate, but don’t fuck with van Gogh!” It gets people to support the ideas of the cause but unifies against the extreme actions taken, while those same extreme actions facilitate further sharing.
FWIW, they didn’t fuck up artwork - certainly not van gogh’s or whatever. The art is covered in glass cases to protect it, so the glass just had to be replaced (which, well, is relatively cheap compared to the paintings. they probably have a fund to cover that cost as the cost of doing business.)
Oh, I absolutely know that. But I think the principle of my argument stands.
it makes it even better, because the paintings are just fine.
