• The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world
    1163·
    1 year ago

    I can’t do this again…

    I know I’m wrong, but it’s just staring at me gold & white. It’s right there, clearly, and I don’t know how to explain it to those who see it the other way.

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
      22·
      1 year ago

      Looks to me like a white and gold dress that’s being shaded from the ambient light. In reality, it’s a black and blue dress with a yellow light cast on it.

      Your mind naturally tries to compensate for color shifts caused by light. For example, a white car still looks white to you at sunset and in the moonlight even though it is actually reflecting that red or blue light, not white light (i.e. all colors of light). That’s because your eye recognizes the general pallete of the ambient light and makes an interpretation automatically about the colors of the objects you see.

      That’s happening in this picture too, either correctly interpreting it as black and blue in yellow light or incorrectly as white and gold in shade. But even knowing it’s incorrect, changing your brain’s interpretation is not easy.

      • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        1 year ago

        Palette

        Pale for the white canvas, 🎨🖼️🖌️ for mixing your oil paints on

        Pallet -the only one with ll- just like the wood slats it’s made of

        Palate -has “ate” and is about your mouth and taste.

      • XTornado@lemmy.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        Well… I would say the interpretation is done by the brain not the eyes…but yeah.

        (Unless I am wrong and there is something on the eyes doing t…)

        EDIT: Nvm you say this at the end my reference was to the palette parts you say about the eyes recognizing

    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
      12·
      1 year ago

      My guess is that some people don’t see the gestalt, they get stuck on the actual RGB color values, which float around light gray/blue, and a dark gold.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
        13·
        1 year ago

        From what I read at the time, there’s an intrinsic lighting judgement being made. It could be one dress being lit in natural light, or another lit under a florescent bar. They both would produce the same RGB values.

        Interestingly nobody has been able to replicate the effect in another image. It’s truly remarkable and one of the best things off of the internet.

    • DavidGarcia@feddit.nl
      4·
      1 year ago

      Because your brain doesn’t just straight up show you the raw color value sent by your eyes, it tries to estimate the true color of the object based on lighting and context cues.

      If you look at a chess board with a gradient shade on it, you brain will tell you the squares are black and white, even tough they are really all completely different shades of grey to your eyes. Depending on the context, literally the same color can appear black or white to you.

      All because your brain is trying to be a smartass.

    • Donjuanme@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      For the first time ever I saw white and gold with this instance of the picture. It scrolled from the bottom of my phone screen and I was wondering what this white and gold picture was… Then I saw it was the dress and I recreated the effect for myself a couple times because I was shocked that I’d finally made the dress look white and gold!

      Most of the time it’s obviously black and blue, I wonder if this version is doctored slightly, because I’ve literally never seen it as white and gold before today.

      And now the effect is gone… :-(

      • The Giant Korean@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20935843/

        Also:

        Shadow Color

        In real life, shadows often appear to be a different color than the area around them. For example, outdoors on a sunny day, shadows can appear to be tinted blue. The shadows appear blue because the bright yellow light from the sun is blocked from the shadow area, leaving only indirect light and blue light from other parts of the sky.

        So basically, if the light source has a yellow color to it (which many often do), the shadows can appear blue.

          • diprount_tomato@lemmy.world
            12·
            1 year ago

            Well, afaik it was confirmed to be black and blue. Whatever, you may see it gold and white because your brain focuses more on the lighter parts. Try covering them with your hand or something

            • pollocks@lemmy.ml
              22·
              1 year ago

              I’ve tried so many things from squinting to covering parts of the picture to adjusting the light in my room. I know this dress is blue and black because I’ve seen it while not being over exposed. I just can’t get my brain to recognize it any other way than gold and white in this picture.

              • sino@feddit.deEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Yeah I just don’t understand this as well, even if the dress was confirmed black and blue, where the heck are those colors in the image? The blue I can still go with if using color picker but the gold is clearly there, even color picker says it’s gold from the image alone. Doesn’t mater what the real dress is colored in if the picture conveys a different story. I see also mostly white and gold and no matter what can’t change it besides looking at the other images of this dress.

                • Cypher@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  Black material isn’t perfect and still reflects light, given there’s a very yellow light source and the picture is overexposed it is showing the black as a “gold” due to the yellow tint.

            • SpaceCadet2000@kbin.social
              121·
              1 year ago

              afaik it was confirmed to be black and blue

              I do believe it actually was black and blue, but I find it very hard to believe that anyone would perceive the way it is presented in this picture, with that lighting and level of overexposure, as black and blue.

              Even looking at the RGB values of individual pixels, they are distinctly brown/gold-ish and a pastellish faded out purple.

            • Cylusthevirus@kbin.social
              91·
              1 year ago

              The actual dress is black and blue. The pixels in that image are a VERY light blue and like a beige type color. You can drop it into that color picker app and see.

              Basically the pic is fried to hell and back.

              • sino@feddit.deEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                Yeah couldn’t agree more, even highlighting the dark pixels does nothing in python if they are closer to the pure black hex value. Simple RGB values of this image is just not black but at least some sort of light blue/blue if not white.

            • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldOPMEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Yeah, I’ve tried the tricks, and I’ve seen other pictures of the actual dress, but I still see dark yellow and light blue / gray. Which, to be fair, are the actual color values in the image.

            • FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world
              2·
              1 year ago

              I don’t think it’s possible to force your brain to see it one way or another. I did see it as white and gold once but it was only for a split second and only after staring at it for a long time. One of my friends tried to prove it was white and gold by messing with the white balance in Photoshop, but that did nothing for me. I’d be surprised if it worked by just covering parts of the picture, it might be a more external lighting perception trick.

        • nero@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I only saw white and gold before i did that and now i can only see black and blue.

      • Dudewitbow@lemmy.ml
        3·
        1 year ago

        One method to attempt to force the change is change the screen brightness and ambient light situation. If its bright where youre looking at, change to a dark room or vice versa

  • expatriado@lemmy.world
    314·
    1 year ago

    whoever get this confused has never fix the white balance of a picture’s color temperature

      • justhach@lemmy.world
        162·
        1 year ago

        Right? Thats always been my take.

        The picture’s exposure/brightness whatever has been so overadjusted that the black and blue looks white and gold.

        You can tell me over and over that its “actually black and blue”, and even show me the real dress beside it, but I cannot for the life of me shift my view on the original picture and somehow view the dress as black and blue.

      • AThing4String@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        1 year ago

        The original photo was for bridesmaid dresses, being sent out as an approval picture or something.

        Looks like they were considering adding a short sleeved jacket to the ensemble.

  • downpunxx@kbin.social
    19·
    1 year ago

    Fun Fact: The same day, February 26, 2015, the Interwebz blew the fuck up about this goddamn dress, some Llamas escaped from captivity and we were all equally captivated by their chase for hours, it was an amazing 24 hours online

  • Poob@lemmy.ca
    17·
    1 year ago

    The colour picker continues to tell me that it is a light shade of blue, near white, and a medium shade of brown, similar to gold.

  • blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social
    12·
    1 year ago

    https://imagecolorpicker.com/en for those seeing white and gold. Also the screen you’re looking at it on matters so much.

    Edit: I did find a neat bug with DarkReader on though. It reads the white pixels as black with the magnifier on the right. Even turning off it’s still pretty blue and white… Apparently it actually pulls the color judging by what your screen shows though… which is pretty neat all considering. The crosshair is on the large white empty space to the right of the large black stripe in the middle.

    DarkReader off: https://i.imgur.com/0ofjl8W.png

    DarkReader on: https://i.imgur.com/OpcDGCH.png

    • Buffalox@lemmy.world
      91·
      1 year ago

      Seems to me a color picker confirms white and gold. Although the white has a bluish tint, some areas don’t even have that, and are light grey. There is no doubt the gold (black) is different tones between brown and yellow, which is the RGB you’d expect for a gold color.

        • Buffalox@lemmy.world
          13·
          1 year ago

          I just saved your image and loaded it into GIMP, and the correct value for the brownish color shown as selected is RGB(256): 78,66,39. (decimal) The same value for both the selection in the read square, and the one left of the RGBA value that is wrong. Brown and yellow colors are dominated by red and green, the RGB value shown in your picture can’t possibly match the color shown as the selected color.

          The value shown in your software is wrong.