• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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      6 months ago

      Can you give examples?

      Of other authoritarian regimes having secret police torture dissidents to extract confessions and creating divine monarchies?

      Are you being serious right now?

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        Authoritarian regimes with out imperialism.

        You are quit difficult you know. Conflation, exaggeration and disingenuous.

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          Authoritarian regimes with out imperialism.

          Authoritarian regimes that developed without the prodding of imperialism? Is that what you’re asking for?

          You are quit difficult you know. Conflation, exaggeration and disingenuous.

          Yes, yes, I know I’m quite difficult. It’s a shame when people stay on-topic instead of wandering off chasing irrelevant points. It makes Whataboutisms so much harder to peddle, doesn’t it?

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            6 months ago

            Yes I want you to provide a name of a country that developed into an authoritarian state without prodding from imperialism.

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              The Han Dynasty. The Russian Empire. Nazi Germany. The “Estado Novo” of Portugal. Francoist Spain.

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                All that you list apart from François Spain were imperial countries… I’m going to assume your trolling.

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                  All that you list apart from François Spain were imperial countries… I’m going to assume your trolling.

                  Wait, so now you’re changing the criteria from “Countries which turned authoritarian without prodding from imperialism” to “Countries that were authoritarian without being imperialist”? How the fuck is that at all relevant, then, to the very imperialist Soviet Union?

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                    This is turning into semantics. How can a country that is imperial not be effected(prodded) by imperialism?

                    I was making a point of the ridiculousness of your prior comment. Well done I guess.