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Chinese leading electric car manufacturer BYD received direct state subsidies of approximately EUR 220 million in 2020, rising to EUR 2.1 billion in 2022. In terms of business revenues, direct subsidies increased from 1.1 percent in 2020 to 3.5 percent in 2022. This is the result of an investigaton by Germany’s Kiel Institute For The World Economy.

Additionally, BYD receives significantly more purchase premiums for electric cars in China compared to other domestic manufacturers like GAC or foreign companies producing locally, such as Tesla or VW’s joint ventures, the study says.

However, the figures clearly understate the true scale and scope of green technology subsidies in China, ss BYD also benefits from subsidies to battery producers through lower input prices, as well as subsidies to buyers of battery electric vehicles, thus stimulating demand.

China’s massive state subsidies are not limited to EV cars. According to a very conservative estimate, industrial subsidies in China amounted to around EUR 221 billion or 1.73% of Chinese GDP in 2019.

The authors urge the European Union to engage in negotiations with the Beijing government amidst the recently initiated anti-subsidy proceeding against imports of electric vehicles from China, aiming to persuade China to withdraw subsidies particularly harmful to the EU. Given China’s current macroeconomic weakness, its relative strength in green technology sectors, and its tensions with the US, the authors see a realistic chance of successful negotiations.

Next week, German chancellor is visiting China, accompanied by an induszry delegation.

  • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
    3·
    7 months ago

    @blazera@lemmy.world

    China is investing government money into electric car companies so that they can produce more if them cheaper …

    Your positive framing of China’s economic policy is completley out of touch. It really helps to read more than a few lines of a post. The negative consequences of Chinese subsidies are obvious in tbe country’s domestic market, and there’s no reason to copy that for the world.

    China’s EV price war is killing brands and infuriating consumers

    China’s EV market has slowed down as consumers cut spending in a post-pandemic economy.

    Brands are fighting a fierce price war in a crowded industry, leading to fast depreciation of electric cars.

    Some startups are on the brink of collapse, leaving software maintenance in limbo.

    And this is just one example. Read the study, find more research, tere is a lot.of it.

    • blazera@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      7 months ago

      Weve got just wildly different priorities. You say depreciation, i say more affordable. My priorities arent for rich people to make more money, i dont care that startups are falling behind, i dont care that someone bought in before a price drop. China’s ev market has “slowed down” to a growth rate that still dwarves the rest of the world, after a crazy and unsustainable gold rush.

      The bottom line is more electric vehicles, less fossil fuel vehicles. Thats it, thats the goal.

    • blazera@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      7 months ago

      Man thats a weird article trying to frame cheaper EVs as a terrible thing. Chinas EV market is by far the largest and fastest growing in the world, by a huge margin.

      • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        @blazera@lemmy.world

        Chinas EV market is by far the largest and fastest growing in the world

        Did you read the articles?

        Chinese EV car manufacturers are making losses, some already filed for bankrupcty, practically all survive on state subsidies. Chinese customers are left behind with no after-sales services and software updates.

        • blazera@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          7 months ago

          basically a lot of companies attempted to get into the game but were crushed by BYD. an effect of going bankrupt early on because you didnt have enough customers is…you didnt have a lot of customers. So customers left without support are a small minority. The companies responsible for China’s massive EV growth are alive and well.

          • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
            2·
            7 months ago

            @blazera@lemmy.world

            The companies responsible for China’s massive EV growth are alive and well.

            Which ones?

            BYD is the one which is ‘alive’ as they live heavily on state subsidies (their subsidies have at least ten-fold since 2020).

            HiPhi, once a promising start-up, Baidu-backed WM Motor, Tencent’s Aiways - all ran out of liquidity to sustain operations. Other brands such as Levdeo and Singulato entered bankruptcy proceedings.

            Which ones are doing well? There are none, even the Chinese government appears to have given up on these companies as they appear to focus solely on BYD given a strong deflationary domestic market.

            • blazera@lemmy.worldEnglish
              22·
              7 months ago

              BYD is the one which is ‘alive’ as they live heavily on state subsidies (their subsidies have at least ten-fold since 2020).

              this just sounds fantastic to me. every country that makes EV’s should be heavily subsidizing them. You’re making capitalism look worse and worse, are you gonna go after American libraries for not being profitable enough and needing state funding?

              • 0x815@feddit.deOPEnglish
                21·
                7 months ago

                What about?

                Can you name Chinese EV companies that are ‘alive and doing well’ as you claimed?

                Do yourself a favour and stay away from wherever you get your ‘opinion’, and get a life.