Europe will lose all credibility if Russia wins in Ukraine, warns Macron
www.telegraph.co.uk
French president invokes Winston Churchill’s call to maintain the ‘sinews of peace’ in a prime-time interview on his stance on the conflict

Cross-posted from: https://feddit.de/post/10013170

The war in Ukraine is “existential for our Europe and for France”, Mr Macron said in the interview on France 2 and TF1.

“Do you think that the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Romanians and the Bulgarians could remain at peace for a second [in the event of a Russian victory in Ukraine]?” he asked. “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”

  • nivenkos@lemmy.worldEnglish
    38·
    8 months ago

    They could hold the current borders for peace. That is the most likely outcome.

    • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
      131·
      8 months ago

      Tell ya what, rent hasn’t been cheap. How about I come to your house and set a few things on fire and camp out in your living room and refuse to leave. I won’t hurt you if you don’t enter the living room, but I’ve claimed the whole room to myself. And you have no way of knowing if I’ll decide to take the kitchen next despite saying I won’t. Would you accept this? Because this is what you’re saying Ukraine should let Russia do to them.

      The only peace that can be achieved here is for Russia to be defeated and driven out of Ukraine entirely. Otherwise, all you are doing is enabling Russia to regroup, rearm and attack again for more territory.

      • lad@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        8 months ago

        I recently read an article that states that maybe Putin kinda outwitted himself in the way that now even if peace could become a possibility this option will not be supported inside of the country because of how government positions are now appointed on the basis of being a war mongrel. Anyway, shit’s real bad and I’m glad I don’t make decisions for any side

      • nivenkos@lemmy.worldEnglish
        27·
        8 months ago

        I don’t support Russia, but you need to be realistic.

        Who is going to be driving them out of Ukraine? Biden has refused to send the US military, and Congress refuses to send weapons.

        • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          8 months ago

          Ukraine will, with support from other countries, as they are now. We need more support for Ukraine, who has already done an excellent job stopping Russia’s progress. Ukraine can only get stronger with more support. Biden can’t send the US military because that turns into a full blown conflict between Russia and America, which would be worse for everybody.

        • Aermis@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          Also it’s an election year. Biden isn’t refusing to send support. Congress is.

          • nivenkos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            8 months ago

            Biden could put boots on the ground tomorrow if he wanted to. The Commander-in-Chief has full control of military operations.