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    The first paragraph makes it sound like they were afraid because their roommate is a dumbass taking ivermectin for covid, then the second paragraph hits.

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    No, you’re both total morons and have absolutely no idea what actually works in the real world against viruses. If you think ivermectin is going to help with COVID, you’re a total asswipe and a total moron, there’s no ingredient in ivermectin that has any effect on the COVID virus whatsoever.

    And no “god” is going to protect you from the horrible outcomes of your own ignorance. You don’t get vaccinated, you take your chances at being killed by COVID, it’s that simple. Period.

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          Not just cattle parasites. It also cures people parasites. Now I do my best to avoid them rather than needing to cure them, but I’m fortunate enough to live somewhere that that’s an option

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            I know it’s sometimes used to treat parasites in people, but I doubt it could do anything to kill the COVID virus. Getting the vaccine took 2 minutes, most of it just waiting to go in for the jab. It was easy and effortless and didn’t cost anything.

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              Oh absolutely it’s an anti parasitic not an antiviral. I just think it’s important to not pretend like it’s solely veterinary when it’s one of the most powerful tools we have for a problem that humans very much still face

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      There were hypotheses that ivermectin initially looked like it was helping with covid outcomes because it was being used in regions with high amounts of undiagnosed parasite infections. So, by clearing out the parasites, they improved the outcomes of covid co-infections.

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        I’m not sure why that would improve outcomes of covid co-infections since COVID is a virus, not a parasite or bacteria, but I think people talk themselves into believing stuff works that couldn’t possibly actually work, (like people who take Prevagen).

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          Because parasites add stress to the body and take up resources, so clearing them out leaves the body more capable of fighting off covid.

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      Thieves smells fantastic, but that’s pretty much all it does. If you just want a way to refresh your kitchen after cooking a smelly dish, then by all means go ahead and wipe down your counters with it. But since it’s directly attached to a bunch of hyper-religious pseudoscience nutjobs who are attempting to set society back several decades, it’s difficult to recommend for anything beyond “I mean I guess it smells good” purposes.

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    They’ll VERY likely be fine, and would be fine if they did nothing at all instead of ineffective or even harmful “alternative remedies”. The reason COVID is such a bitch is that everyone gets it, so even if deaths are under a single percent of people infected that’s millions of deaths. Add in all the seriously affected people who survive but need expensive/labor-intensive/lengthy medical care and you can see why it’s a big deal.

    These folks can get away with anecdotes about their horseshit saving them because COVID was unlikely to kill most of them anyways. They are, however, more likely to be more seriously ill for a longer period of time with worse “long COVID” symptoms. “They found initially and during recovery from symptomatic COVID-19, fully vaccinated participants had lower concentrations of inflammatory markers than unvaccinated participants, suggesting vaccination is associated with short-term and long-term reduction in inflammation, which could in part, explain the reduced disease severity, mortality and risk of long COVID in vaccinated individuals.”

    Vaccination is at least as much about shorter, less severe illness with less likelihood of long-term effects for survivors as it is about preventing death. So the Ivermectin user will probably survive (and thus will likely claim they never needed the vaccine), but they and the roommate will have a harder time of it than they would have otherwise both during and after infection.

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      What really gets me is these people refuse to take the vaccines because they don’t know what’s in them, or because it has chemicals, or because they don’t trust doctors/scientists/the government, yet they will take Ivermectin and bleach…

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      I’ve never had it. Nor have my wife and son. But my daughter got it and isolated for two weeks with my wife. We’re all vaxed.

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            First two times? Four months of depression. It suuucked. I was bracing for another round when I caught it for the third time, but luckily that time it was without long term complication, aside from being somewhat weak for a while.

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    All this ‘powerful medicine’ makes me think someone has no faith in the power of their invisible friend.

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    "I told my therapist that I had suicidal tendencies and asked him what I should do. He said "go for it! ". - Emo Philips

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      Unfortunately probably not. The same lack of self awareness that makes them say stupid shit makes them breed like rabbits as well.

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            Yes i do think parental trauma causes kids to turn out better than them or atleast oppose the ethics and morals of their parents . But it is 50/50 tho there will always be a kid who turned out better than his father/mother and one who really leached of their behavior and became a bigger asshole . It all depends on the kind of trauma which i am not gonna dwell into as it may get NSFW.

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              I turned out better than my abusive parents but not because they were abusive. I would be a better person without them. And “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” is untrue and a horrific message.

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                Not at all i what i was implying ifcourse good parents make better kids just saying a bad parent may not necesaarily make a bad kid . For eg would you say you are better or worse than them ?

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                  A ton better than them; but I would be even better if it weren’t for them ^^

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        which is profoundly ironic considering that this is the exact stuff you hear from these conservatives about immigrants

        they should look themselves in the mirror, except i suspect they’d just freak out at the stranger that showed up in their house…

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    Vitamin C and Zinc are actually good for your immune system.

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      Vitamin C or Zinc helping with covid is just as much pseudoscience as invermiacin helping with covid.

      Technically both can help but the situation where they do will almost never apply in developed countries. A severe parasite infection will make it harder for your body to fight off covid so invermectin could help there by getting rid of the parasites. But most people aren’t walking around riddled with parasites let alone to the point where it starts impacting their immune system.

      Likewise if you are deficient in zinc or vitamin C it will harm your immune system and in that case they could help with covid. But most people in developed countries get plenty of both from their diet. You get vitamin C from far more than citrus, it’s also in potatoes, onions, tomatoes, broccoli, peppers, and many non citrus fruits. It’s also in a lot of artificial drinks. Likewise zinc it plentiful in meat, dairy, and grains especially in processed grain foods like cereals which tend to be fortified with it. Consuming excess of either vitamin just makes you pee the excess out. If your diet is bad enough that you aren’t getting enough zinc or vitamin C then odds are you’re going to notice before those two become too deficient anyways because you’re going to wind up with something like an iron or magnesium deficiency which are both far more common and pretty noticable.

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      Yeah but you gotta be careful where you get your vitamins and minerals, because a lot of supplements don’t give them in a form your body can even use.

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      Heck, Ivermectin is good for you… if you have parasites. Does nothing for Covid tho.

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          Ivermectin is a general antiparasitic drug used in dogs, horses, sheep, cows, reptiles, and humans. It’s on the WHO’s list of essential medicines, and it was the 341th most commonly prescribed medication in the US. We use it for lice, scabies, whipworm, etc.

          These people use horse paste because it’s available off the shelf at Tractor Supply, whereas to get ivermectin for humans requires a prescription from a doctor. Which they’re not gonna get, because it doesn’t work for covid.

          And they shouldn’t get it, because we don’t want to overuse it and end up with ivermectin resistant parasites. Hell, I wouldn’t be opposed to ivermectin for horses requiring a vet prescription and doing fecal egg counts so we don’t end up with resistant strongloides.