• Reliant1087@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I agree with you that every language has its flaws but JS feels like it was a hodgepodge created without any design philosophy in mind. I don’t use C or lisp in day to day work but I can appreciate their philosophies and power. Can’t say the same about JS.

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      If it has a design philosophy, it’s “never show an error, even when the user is wrong”.

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      That’s because it literally is the result of mozila, Microsoft and later Google fighting about what the right language choices were/are. Browser detection scripts and shims are still a thing, but back in the day we had to code that shit by hand every, and I mean every, minor version release of every browser.

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        This is super interesting. But why isn’t HTML or CSS a similar mess? I found their structure to be more logical than JS. Parts of JS feels like it’s intended as a backend language but parts of it don’t.

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          Wait, you don’t think html is a mess? Lol.

          Css benefited from coming much later than the other two… But it also has issues.

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              Lol. That’s like saying js is ok as long as you never use the parts that 90% of js developers use.

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                Really? I find that css is pretty much the ugly part of html. Html is no worse than markdown or latex. If you just wrote plain HTML and were okay with how it rendered, you would have nicely structured code.

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                  My point is that if you only use the parts that don’t bring confusion you have a problem… Nobody ever does that in production… Much less with any frameworks. There is no such thing as semantic html at scale or in any modern framework.

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                    That isn’t the fault of the language though. It does what it was designed to well. Maybe it is I’ll suited to achieve things it wasn’t designed to do?

                    I could absolutely write code to do data analytics with C and gnuplot, does that mean they’re the appropriate tools for doing that when pandas, SPSS, Julia or matlab exists? Probably not.