The spell has a verbal component, and apparently, verbal components are VERY loud and obvious. If it can be heard, this would make the Silence spell useless in almost every situation. Want to kill one guard without the other nearby guards noticing? Just SHOUT AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS, create the zone of silence on the isolated guard, run up to him and slash him with an axe, and your good. You’ll just have to hope that the other guards didn’t hear your loud casting of the spell. Even worse, the verbal component is used at the START of the casting, not after the casting. This means that the one isolated guard that you are placing the zone of silence on top of can CLEARLY hear you shouting in the casting of the spell right before the zone’s effects take place. Not even he is surprised by you, and he will probably immediately turn to face you.

Maybe I’m just not being creative enough, but this one small thing seem to make and already niche spell even more niche to the point of being virtually useless.

  • The-Fluffers@fediverser.communick.devB
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    1 year ago

    People seriously overestimate the volume of spellcasting. Verbal components are “normal noise level”, it’s equivalent to normal speech. Some SPELL EFFECTS are very loud - a fireball or lightning bolt is going to be heard clearly hundreds of feet away, you could make arguments for people being able to hear spells like this up to a mile away or even more in some environments.

    The verbal component itself shouldn’t be audible more than 120 feet away at the absolute farthest. I would even argue that spells like suggestion have very quiet, nearly imperceptible verbal components. Other spellcasters watching the spell being cast would clearly see that it’s a spell, but to the average person someone casting a spell like suggestion would literally appear to just be doing a jedi mind trick.

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    1 year ago

    Is the OP a DM whose game keeps getting thwarted by players using silence, and is trying to get a bunch of people to agree with him on Reddit so that he can show his players they’re wrong?

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      1 year ago

      Is the OP a DM whose game keeps getting thwarted by players

      …and is trying to get a bunch of people to agree with him on Reddit so that he can show his players they’re wrong?

      That’s 50% of this subreddit. People usually aren’t this transparent about it. lmao

  • emomermaid@fediverser.communick.devB
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    1 year ago

    Silence is a solid spell imo. You’re forgetting it’s usefulness in combat, making it impossible for spellcasters to cast any spell with a verbal component (which is most of them) in a large area without requiring a save.

    If you want to cast the spell while around people, yeah, they could notice you casting it, unless you use subtle spell. Also, the spell has other situations where it could be useful, like to cover up the sound from a knock spell on a difficult or magic lock. Silence also has the ritual tag, meaning in a situation like that you could cast it without expending a spell slot.

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      1 year ago

      Silence also has the ritual tag, meaning in a situation like that you could cast it without expending a spell slot.

      What’s even more obviously noticeable than casting a spell?

      Casting a spell for ten minutes straight as a ritual.