• Ornstein says Arsenal scouted Havertz extensively when he was at Leverkusen.

  • Arsenal were in contact with his representatives in 2020, but were not able to pay the price Leverkusen demanded.

  • Havertz popped up on Arsenals radar again around March this year, when he was approaching final 2 years of his contract.

  • Mount, Gundogan and Kudus were looked at in the summer.

  • Arteta was the driving force behind our interest in Havertz. Edu was on board.

  • Bayern were interested in Havertz. Real Madrid wanted to wait and see how things unfolded with Harry Kane first.

  • Once Havertz learned of Arsenals interest, he had a Zoom meeting with Mikel Arteta. After this he was fully comitted to Arsenal.

  • Big difference in how public sees Havertz and how the people working in fotball see Havertz. He is highly rated in the fotball world.

  • Havertz has very good attitude and is “ultra comitted and dedicated” and fotball obsessed to get this right and work with the coaches.

  • His attitude, application and conduct on the training field is excellent. He is a very popular character with players and staff.

  • Ornstein mentions Barella as one CM option this summer, but sounds more like he mentions Barella as one of the midfielders that could have been signed this summer and not that he was somebody we specifically targeted.

  • Havertz base salary is in the region of 275k per week, almost same as at Chelsea.

  • His price/wage might make fans expect a more “glamorous” role from him when in reality his current role is a bit more subtle.

  • Marks the stats guy “Havertz is valued by Arteta for his work off the ball”. Havertz is really intelligent with his defensive positioning and doesnt shy away from a challenge when he needs to.

  • True tackles = Tackles + challenges lost + fouls comitted. A way to see a players tendency to “stick a foot in”

  • When in controlled posession, Havertz with his 6.4 true tackles ranks number 3 in the Arsenal squad. Adds a bite to the team when out of posession.

  • He has 1.4 blocked passses per 90 minutes, second highest in the Arsenal squad.

  • These are not the primary attributes Arsenal have brought him in for, but he has been in an important part in our defense being more solid this season.

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    10 months ago

    People act like he has been horrible - he has been OK.

    Look at how much we paid for him, though. And the reported wages he’s on. He needs to be a lot better than ‘ok’. IMO it’s the Pepe situation again. He was a fine player, but we broke the bank for him so really he needed to be giving us a lot more than just “fine”.

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      10 months ago

      I agree with this, I just think the fact he’s only been ‘ok’ so far doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll be just ‘ok’ for us over 4-5 years. The first few months in a new team/system are the hardest. He can come good.

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      10 months ago

      Yes but it speaks to just how much better we are now as a unit when Havertz is allowed to have a slow start and bed in. We were looking at Pepe as THE answer whereas with Havertz he is an important addition to the team but doesn’t have as much weight on his shoulders as Pepe did. Fortunately for us we have the best squad we’ve seen in a long, long time and can afford to allow king Kai to bake a little bit in the oven while he learns his role in this system. We are top of the table with him being “okay”, imagine if and a when he gets rolling.

      Patience everybody.

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      10 months ago

      Definitely, hence my second paragraph. It takes time to settle into a new club and position, but a top 3 earner should have enough quality to start every time. The reason he doesn’t, is because we’re about the same level with either of him, Jorginho and Vieira starting, which reflects well on our depth, even without Partey, but poorly on Havertz.

      Pepe comparison is good. Let’s hope Havertz has what it takes to kick on instead of dropping off. At least unlike Pepe, the manager brought him here. Would be fun if Nwaneri eventually Saka’d him.

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      10 months ago

      It’s only been 5 months. Slower start to his Arsenal career, but I believe it will get better. He currently has more premier league goals this season than Jesus and Martinelli…

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, but to be fair they were both injured for a big chunk of it. Also, Eddie is our top scorer right now, but I still don’t have faith in him to lead our front line.

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      10 months ago

      City paid 100 mill for Grealish and it took him a comfortable YEAR to get adjusted to City and Pep’s tactics but it came good and now he’s putting top performances all the time. That was also a domestic transfer like Havertz was too.

      Sometimes you have to shake off what you’re used to and adapt to a new system. He hasn’t even been that bad by any means, he just doesn’t feel like a 65 mill signing yet

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        10 months ago

        Jack was performing very well at Villa, so was afforded that time at City.

        Kai has never shown that in his 3 years in the Prem and is continuing that with us.

        For all we shelled out i would expect an attacking player to score more than 1 goal than Tomi