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We shouldn’t be going anywhere near Toney in January or otherwise.
His cost and age make it not worthwhile, and when you look at his non penalty goals he’s actually a very average (premier league quality) striker number wise, who wouldn’t be worth anywhere near what Brentford would (rightfully for them) value him at.
Well if you believe the recent transfer news, our focus has switched from a striker to a midfielder. I don’t even think Brentford want him to leave in Jan because their two other strikers are going to be at Afcon.
That’s good. My theory is that Arsenal were never really in for a striker and always looked at their midfield when reflecting on a solution for our attacking problem this season. We have changed 2/3rds of our midfield (Xhaka gone, Partey injured) and are not able to recreate the fluidity needed in our transitions.
We probably need a physical 8 with good passing range, I have to say I have no idea who is available that would fit this. Douglas Luiz? No way Aston Villa let him go in January…
Yeah midfielder seems to be the initial need, which is the right play I think. Just hope we look at other striker options in the summer.
statwise I’d go with guirassy or gimenez this season
14 goals a season at a midtable side is very far from average.
The reported fee is 60 million and that is a very fair price considering that money is what Spurs spent on Richarlison and less than Utd played for Hojlund. An extra 14 goals a season would easily be worth 60 million
We’re not going to win the league with a 14 goal a season striker. It wouldn’t be an extra 14 goals if he’s replacing Jesus.
Hojlund cost more because united believe he has the potential to be more than that and he has the longevity along with the physical profiles of speed and strength already there.
We either need to be going for a world class striker (Oshimen) which probably won’t happen, or go for a striker playing well in a top league which still has potential growth (Sesko or Gyokeres as 2 quick examples) which can supplement Jesus and then take a lead role in a year or two.
And recent rumours are saying Brentford value him at £100m, so even with negotiating Toney will be more than £60m.
He’s a 14 goal a season striker by your criteria. He could score more or less joining a bigger and better club, logic would dictate he scores more. Why would Toney replace Jesus? We both know that if he was bought in it would be to replace Nketiah, not Jesus.
So Utd spent more on a player for potential (which he hasn’t lived up to), but spending less on a player who is actually proven at this level is a bad thing. You mention penalty goals like they don’t count. Haaland scored 7, Kane scored 5 last season, but you wouldn’t turn down those players. His NPG at a mid table club that scored 20 goals less than we did would put him as our third top goal scorer, one behind two players that had outstanding seasons.
Osihmen is a pipedream that isn’t happening. We’d have to comfortably win the league and the CL for him to consider us. Sesko would cost comfortably above 70 million and hasn’t exactly set the world alight in Leipzig. Gyokeres is nowhere near good enough for the . The time to buy him was 6 months ago for pennies, not in 6 months
Recent rumours being a rumour that only Sky sports reported on…
The brass tax of the matter is we need a striker in January that we know can score goals in this league. We do not have the time to write off players in the hopes we can buy others in the future
He wouldn’t get 14 extra goals because :
A) he wouldn’t consistently get the game time ahead of Jesus
B) He won’t score 14 goals more than Eddie would in his limited game time as Jesus backup
C) If he is our starting striker he’s not going to score 25 league goals (excluding penalties because Jesus doesn’t take our penalties and got 11 league goals last season even missing 3 months injured)
I take away his penalties because there’s no assumption he becomes our penalty taker or is on the pitch to take the penalties. If he comes, and starts, and then takes penalties then those extra goals become more valid.
Also we don’t need a striker in January, we have Jesus, Eddie and Trossard (maybe Gabi) and a midfielder or defender (without Partey and Tomi) are more priority areas in the short term.
Jesus is too injury prone to be relied on a main striker, and he’s too wasteful. That should not be up for argument. He is elite at everything in a forward except for putting the ball in the net.
He’s far better than Nketiah, is starting quality and allows us to rotate Jesus to the wings. He would get plenty of game time and score plenty of chances, especially in a team like ours. Nketiah has played nearly 3000 minutes between last season and this season and has 10 goals. Toney has 20 in a similar amount of time.
Scoring 25 NPG in a league campaign would make him one of the best strikers in the world jfc. That’s the level of players like Kane and better than players like Salah.
We certainly do need a striker. Not too sure what games you’re watching to think we don’t need someone to score us more goals, because its badly needed
Age? He’s only 27
Until he’s 28…