• RobbieFowler9@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Lots of people talking about it not being a handball at all.

    The ball does hit his chest first but that only applies for deflections not deliberate attempts to control the ball. He’s trying to control it with his chest and takes a bad touch. A bad touch doesn’t negate handball.

  • noise256@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    One of the things that bugs me about this is that from the moment Mac Allister made a ‘handball’, Liverpool were in a strange state where they could no longer score. Play hasn’t stopped and Liverpool are in possession but if this results in a goal then VAR will go back and disallow it. Yet at the same time, they were never going to stop play for the handball after it wasn’t given by the ref.

    The best thing Liverpool could have done at the point would have been to give away possession or to kick the ball out because otherwise the players are in some weird limbo where play is still going, they’re possession but they can’t actually do anything.

  • GrumpyOldFart74@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This is a much better clip than the other one that was posted.

    Seeing all that takes it from “harsh handball” to wtaf?! Not the biggest fan of Liverpool, but that’s just stupid.

  • stumpyDgunner@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I think it’s fine to pull something back after the play extends if the situation deserves it. This isn’t one of those, super borderline

  • Kensei01@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    These are the type of decisions that the on-field ref has to call on the spot or ignore.

    No one would complain if the ref made a call here and stuck to it.

  • spacedude444@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This was soo far back

    They cleared the ball

    The ball touched about 7 players before it was in the net

    Its not a handball

    we played horrible but this just takes the fun out of the sport, our only 2 loses in the last 26 games were this and spurs game where both perfectly fine goals got disallowed

  • Spreeg@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Hits top part of sleeve.

    Other phases of play between it and goal.

    Definitely not clear and obvious.

    Literallly points to spot and awards the goal.

    Don’t follow this one at al

  • punkdrummer22@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Clear handball but VAR shouldn’t be going back that far to call that.

    If VAR wants to be used there have the VAR call it down right away

  • official_bagel@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This made me realize I don’t know what constitutes the changing of a phase of play.

    Does headed clearance like that constitute a new phase of play even if it doesn’t leave the box and goes straight to an opposing player? Or does a team need to have actual possession of the ball?

  • sunken_grade@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    it’s crazy that we can’t go a single day without controversial refereeing decisions being made