What club signing made you pissed off that has or haven’t worked out

  • naerisshal@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Havertz as a false nine / striker is just wasted. He is a very attack minded 8, played his best football at Leverkusen in that position. If you put him there with a striker that knows when to drop or when to make a run and he is deadly and will get loads of goals and assists

    • McQueensbury@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      He was more of a floating no.10 at Leverkusen, even when he played false no.9 for them he was very good. He’s just not suited to Arsenal or Chelsea

    • Rush31@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      But isn’t the problem that he would start to encroach on Odegaard’s territory?

    • darrensmooth@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      as a Chelsea fan, seeing all these debates on where he should play, its all too relatable, now Arsenal fans are doing it. in my personal opinion, he will not do very well regardless of playing position in this league. This league is too fast, too physical for him. He was good at Bayer because of the characteristics of that league, you want to see the best Havertz send him back to Germany. Chelsea played him in every possible attacking position and he was unconvincing in all of them, hence the constant debate.

    • potato_creeper1001@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      The problem is that this position slowly loses popularity and is often replaced with the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formations for they are reputated to be far more efficient to many teams.

      4-3-3 with CDM for better defence and more controlled midfield that can hold together with CMs playibg box to box ( Barcelona basically).

      4-2-3-1 for having a high number in the middle and keeping high pressure on the defence, better possesion with the ball and more passing options.

      Havertz is somewhere between the two, he can perform well in a mixte position because he does not have a striker/ center forward role, nor he has a very good passing range. Don’t get me wrong, his passing is fine, but not thoes top level passing that are important to open up defences and create chances from his team.

      Why the 4-2-3-1 does not work despite Havertz beiing able to play CAM, it is because it is taken by Ødegaard. Therfor, he will usually play CM or CDM which is, by far, not his best positions.

    • The_prawn_king@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      He’d be better in that position but you’d waste odegaard who is the better player on the ball and should be more involved going forwards than havertz