Constant midweek flights to europe can’t help the recovery period either

Are any of the injuries really attributable to that?

Lots of injuries.

• our squads still not fully padded out

• we weren’t humbled by BD at all, we took the game to them and if Joe’s header went in it would have been 1-1

• It’s a group of death. Only 4 in our squad has CL experience. And we have more points than Man Utd with their easier opposition (BM excluded)

• Burn falling on his back, Murphy on his shoulder, these aren’t caused by intensity. This happens

Once a a weekend yes. If you want do it twice a week you probably need a bigger squad in order to rotate.

No idea why this is downvoted 😂. Chelsea have been plagued with injuries and no-one has questioned it.
Barnes, Burn, Murphy and Anderson were all freak injuries that can happen anytime and not related to playing time. Tonali is also non football related. Targett’s injury he’d played 1 minute and barely played all season. Basically that leaves Isak, Wilson and Botman who are both victims of “intensity”, which in itself doesn’t account for the fact that more games is more chance of pickkng up knocks. Willock was injured last season so doesn’t count. Joelinton and Longstaff both picked up small injuries early in the season before the multiple game weeks.

So it is indeed lazy to insinuate that intensity and number of games has resulted in huge injury list.

We did it last season and finished 4th and got to a cup final. We are suffering injuries this season, but that’s not because of our tempo. Plenty of successful teams have played at this tempo, in fact it’s where we/Howe drew inspiration from.

I wouldn’t say many of our injuries this season are from the intensity? A lot of them seem freak injuries

Also in a lot of games we aren’t playing as high a pressing game for 90 mins seem to pick and choose when we do it in game we have often sat deeper in our half

Only played 3 extra games so far as we got a bye from the first League Cup game so its not a massive amount of games but yeah I think it will catch up with us unless we can get a few players on loan from Saudi in January… kidding !!

Well the rules have been changed this year and every match is going longer. Some teams, it will suit less but I can’t see why anyone would expect fewer injuries as a result.

Lots of teams are struggling with injuries and ironically enough, Newcastles injury list isn’t that different in length to when Steve Bruce was in charge while constantly on holiday there.

A lot of the injuries are from impact. Tonali is banned and not injured. He has 10 months to keep fit and integrate.

Problem is we’re playing more games so there are more chances for injuries to occur.

Targett and Wilson are the only muscle injuries. Targett hasn’t featured much and Wilson was injury-prone during Bruceball.

We qualified for the Champions League several seasons too early without the infrastructure in place to cope. Hopefully it frees up funds within our limotFFP budget to introduce more squad members.

I reckon Minteh is involved in the team next season, possibly Kuol if he makes progress. Even just one of them would really ease the burden on Gordon, Barnes, Miggy and Murphy.

A lot of the injury’s are apparently weird and generally unrelated to the intensity. Burn and Anderson both hurt their backs - burn by falling around 16ft over his shoelaces. Murphy dislocated his shoulder which seems pretty unrelated. Barnes I think broke his toe? Or something toe related which again, isn’t to do with playstyle. A lot of the injuries just seem really unlucky.

Lack of real investment over 14 years can’t be overturned in two years, with the ffp limits we can’t do what city, chelsea and United do and spaff money on players, this is the real issue for me, the playing style is sustainable we just have financial hurdles to navigate to bring the squad depth up, which sounds ridiculous I know but I’m grateful in another way as if the pif sold us the new owners can’t chase the superstars and rack up billions of pounds of debt and ruin us thanks to the ffp rules

Newcastle fan here. Tbf Howe toned down the pressing and now gets into a low-ish block against certain teams like they did against Arsenal. It’s how many times we lose possession that tires out our players from having to chase it back.

Hasn’t Liverpool basically already answered that question? They’ve toned it down a bit recently but they were on a ~18 month cycle of playing super intense football before burning out and accumulating a load of injuries for a while.

I don’t think they’ve hit that point yet but obviously at some point you do have to be able to take the foot off the pedal a bit if you’re playing 2 games a week as the norm.

It’s hard work throwing yourself to the ground several times per game