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    3 days ago

    It being inspired by socialism doesn’t change the fact that the workers don’t own the means of production there and it is therefore not socialism. Them having more say because they have unions is not the same.

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      3 days ago

      workers don’t own the means of production

      Workers control the means of production through the democratic state

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        3 days ago

        they don’t though, they regulate it and apply some pressure, but these are still privately held, socialism is always in contrast to private ownership.

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          3 days ago

          socialism is always in contrast to private ownership

          The Nordic Model is public ownership of high value industry (most notably, the O&G industry). They also have universal healthcare and free education, which come as a byproduct of state owned and operated medical centers and schools. And strong union membership puts a public leash on private enterprises at the level of direct worker action.

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            3 days ago

            “The government controls around 35% of the total value of publicly listed companies on the Oslo stock exchange, with five of its largest seven listed firms partially owned by the state.[34]” good, but not socialism. Free healthcare and schools are not related to socialism.

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                2 days ago

                35% does not make worker ownership the principal aspect of the economy, thus it is not socialist.