• Communist
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    10 days ago

    i agree that poll is insufficiently specific, however, even if 100% of that 58% agreed with you, that would still not meet the criteria for scientific consensus, which is typically in the 90’s. Show me a poll that indicates those beliefs are agreed upon in the 90’s without an intersex objection and you will prove me wrong!

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10563654/ this might interest you, if you bother to read it, I disagree that it has anything to do with a lack of evolutionary knowledge, in fact I find the people most ignorant of evolution strongly hold this belief regularly, but that is a mere anecdote. None of the roundtable had anything to do with that, those claims seem baseless and dataless.

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      That link is a great example of why gender studies degrees aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, goddamn. They’re not doing science, they’re zealots pushing for a new religion to infect science just like creationists of old 🤦

      https://www.lifescied.org/doi/10.1187/cbe.21-12-0343

      We provide teaching suggestions derived from student interviews for making biology more queer-inclusive.

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        6 days ago

        …Your quote is about changing the culture of a workplace to increase the number of scientists, and their happiness with their job.

        What’s the problem with that? Why is that not worthwhile to have more scientists?

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          Should we also make science more Christian-inclusive? Avoid teaching things that are offensive to them? That would surely increase the number of scientists.

          No, because that would be silly. Science doesn’t care how you identify. Put up or shut up

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            23 hours ago

            Should we also make science more Christian-inclusive?

            Yes, being more inclusive is always good.

            Avoid teaching things that are offensive to them?

            No, but nobody said we should do that, so, what’s your point?

            That would surely increase the number of scientists.

            We aren’t increasing it at all costs, we’re just finding ways to increase it by being kind to one another.

            No, because that would be silly.

            Yeah, that would be silly… but nobody is arguing for it and this is entirely a strawman.

            Science doesn’t care how you identify.

            Humans do science, humans should care.