Stephen Starr in Hamtramck, Michigan
Mon 14 Oct 2024 11.00 EDT

  • Communist
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    3 hours ago

    That would make sense if there were ranked choice voting.

    there isn’t, though

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        2 hours ago

        It could be if enough people pushed for it, like they should, since it’s objectively better in every way from first past the post, and would actually make doing things like this work.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          2 hours ago

          How does that translate into reality? More people want Medicare For All and legalized weed, and even abortion rights. It isn’t as simple as saying “it could be if enough people pushed for it,” the parties don’t operate on public will.

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            1 hour ago

            Do you believe no legislation has ever been passed due to public will?

            • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              1 hour ago

              I believe what drives the direction of the parties is maintaining their position and appeasing their donors. Legislation that fits popular will but goes against the former drives, like RCV, are a fantasy.

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                  51 minutes ago

                  It doesn’t, really. You’ll see when it fizzles out.

                  Additonally, we can see even in other countries with RCV that it doesn’t majorly improve things, RCV isn’t a panacea, the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie still dominates the electoral system.

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                    18 minutes ago

                    I never said it was a panacea, I said you’d be able to vote for better candidates without risk, currently it makes no sense to vote for candidates that have no chance of winning.

                    if it fizzles out It’ll be because of republicans, that many bills in that short of a time is not insignificant

                    i don’t understand why you’re arguing against ranked choice, it’s objectively and obviously better than fptp

                    do you think voting jill stein has a higher chance of success even though it’s mathematically impossible?

                    if everyone doing that instead pushed for ranked choice, maybe you’d get some actual long term results instead of just throwing your vote away