Maintaining the moral high ground is crucial when attempting to fight extremists with reason and discourse.

MLK understood this tactic and brilliantly deployed it with his non-violent movement, and he defeated extremists with reason and discourse.

You can call me naïve, but wouldn’t have been a shame if MLK gave up when he was called naïve?

When they go low, we go high.

-Michelle Obama

I admit you raise some good points. I have always thought that people susceptible to extremism will eventually find it online, but maybe they won’t, and maybe exposing them to those ideas in rational conversation on mainstream platforms is too “risky.” My gut tells me that is not the case, but that is just my gut. It seems worthy of some kind of study.

Cheers. Not everyone has the constitution to engage, and that’s fine. I do not think hate should be tolerated, but I think it must be confronted with reason. The only alternatives seem to be more isolation, extremism, and violence.

Cheers. Not everyone has the constitution to engage, and that’s fine. I do not think hate should be tolerated, but I think it must be confronted with reason. The only alternatives seem to be more isolation, extremism, and violence.

You ever hear of that black guy who makes friends with KKK members? Sometimes they give up their bullshit and they become friends. I will accept the risk of having futile arguments with many if there is a chance that logic and reason breaks through to a few.

I have argued with them a lot in person and online. Yeah, most of the time it is futile. Every now and then it’s not. You ever hear of that black guy who makes friends with KKK members? Sometimes they give up their bullshit and they become friends. I will accept the risk of having futile arguments with many if there is a chance that logic and reason breaks through to a few.

So the solution is to just kick people we disagree with off all the mainstream platforms and ensure they go to their own echo chambers where they are isolated from any reasonable counters to their ideology, which will just ultimately make the problem worse? Brilliant.

It’s like the war on drugs. If we just ban it then surely the problem will disappear…except it just gets worse.

How can people be this shortsighted?

So the solution is to just kick them off all the mainstream platforms and ensure they go to their own echo chambers where they are isolated from any reasonable counters to their ideology, which will just ultimately make the problem worse? Brilliant.

It’s like the war on drugs. If we just ban it then surely the problem will disappear…except it just gets worse.

How can people be this shortsighted?

Sarno’s books helped me when nothing else would. Here is a link to a free program that in my opinion is a more modern and precise way:

https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/painrecovery/

Wise AI technologists: We need to be extraordinarily careful about propagating this stuff. Like, we might need to wait 50 years until we fully understand what it does and/or we solve the alignment problem.

Meta: Here you go guys! Go nuts!

You’re right. It’s communities, not instances. But, my point stands. I will update my OP.

Answering as an American:

Because the working class understands that “elites” are a necessary decadence and side effect of free markets, and they are fine with billionaires if it means those free markets enable them to live like a king from the 1800s, and they are not consumed with narcissistic jealousy of people that have more than them. Plus they understand history, and they see how class wars worked out in the Bolshevik revolution.

I consider myself rich AF, because I have a roof over my head, AC, and healthy food to eat, which is RELATIVELY easy to come by in America. Tradespeople like plumbers and electricians are doing very well in America, and if they are reasonably fiscally responsible and save their money well, then they can retire comfortably after 15-20 years of work.

Many people all over the world understand all of this, and they clamor to immigrate to America.

What’s the limit on packs of gum? Asking for a friend.

Fire is not fire. Therefore fire is not hot.

The distinction is between a thing in relation to other things and for us and a thing in itself. To the extent that water cannot wet, it is not water. To the extent that fire cannot burn, it is not fire. Yet precisely for not burning itself, fire is fire; and for not wetting itself, water is water. X is not X, therefore it is X. For precisely in its act of burning firewood, fire does not burn itself; and in not burning itself, it burns firewood. It burns in relation to something else, but in-itself (in relation to itself) it does not burn.

I agree that if Reddit is doing that, then that is unacceptable. I have no reason to doubt it, but I have not experienced it myself.

Discord is worse. At least Reddit lets you delete everything you post. With Discord, if you are banned from a server, then there is no way to delete your posts in that server. That is insane to me in this day and age.