Oh man, I feel like eviltoast.org is on the expensive side of things now. There’s less than 20 mau, but I pay close to $400/mo. Not including object storage or hardware running at home.
Realistically this is hosted on hardware I was already renting for other reasons, so actual cost is zero for lemmy itself. I could probably migrate to a small vm for $20/mo and only lose redundancy.
IMO I don’t think it is something the lemmy devs are focused on, but there is a growing community creating helpful tools around moderation/federation/maintenance. There were some core features added like mods being able to see downvotes to detect mass downvoting, and open issues for things like an invite system.
LemmyAutomod is an example of a community effort. I saw some other similar bots posted too.
The signup application process is now also enabled for new users.
Thanks for the report. This user and several others were banned last night. I’m looking for others as well that may not have been quite as bad.
Please see https://eviltoast.org/post/3963121 - we are now on 0.19.2! Thanks for your patience.
In case anyone is wondering, I’m still holding off on 0.19.1 because of this outgoing federation issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4288
There is an open PR for it that might fix it. Assuming it does, we’ll upgrade once it’s merged in and released.
threads.net is now on the blocked list. Please do leave a comment if you disagree with this decision!
Hello and welcome!
I was holding off on 0.19.0 because of some performance issues other instances were having. It looks like that is probably fixed now though with 0.19.1 released today.
Unless there are any more big issues, it’ll probably happen in the next day or so.
👋 I am leaning towards defederating w/ Threads. Lemmy 0.19.0 does have a feature to block instances at the user level, and I was thinking that might help when we upgrade. But with so many users on threads (compared to lemmy), I don’t think it’d be hard for threads to overwhelm everything.
I’m not even sure what sort of load impact it will have on servers. I can imagine a lot of instances will accidentally ddos themselves just by following stuff on threads.
There isn’t really a thought out stance on it so far.
I know a lot of instances are planning on preemptively blocking or defederating from threads, but I haven’t decided if that’s overkill or not.
I think it depends on if it ever actually happens, and also whether it ends up causing any issues. It probably won’t get blocked by default, but we also don’t want to get defederated and siloed from other instances.
What are your thoughts on it?
I’m hoping it will in a “show of good faith” type of way if nothing else, but I don’t know how much it truly holds up.
Also you might be interested, I just posted an update on https://eviltoast.org/post/543242 about updating the guidelines a little bit. Nothing’s really changing, but the latest drama did remind me to add a little coverage.
There are, but I think people are still leaning towards the bigger instances by default. Probably part of existing users on those instances recruiting more people and suggesting to use the same instance instead of finding a different one. A lot of reddit threads were linking directly to lemmy.world for example.
I saw some talk about lemmy clients implementing some sort of random sign-up where it puts new users on random instances, or at least shows a list of instances they could choose from. I’m not sure if that’s the solution, but it’d be an improvement imo.
Nope, we haven’t defederated from anyone (instances or communities), and as far as I know noone has defederated from us either.
https://eviltoast.org/instances would show blocked instances if there are any, but I’m not sure if there’s a public page somewhere that would show blocked/banned communities.
There’s also this tool, but I don’t know how accurate it is:
https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=eviltoast.org vs https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=lemmy.world as an example
That’s very true, I’m not interested in constantly moderating a huge community. I do think it’d be nice to have a small community of chill folks though. Nothing like lemmy.world or the other big instances
Thanks! We like you too <3
I’m always open to suggestions and feedback if you have any. At the moment, we’re small enough to not really attract any drama and bs. I’ve been considering mentioning this instance in other places to try and get a few more users, but not too many. Even though there’s something like 100-200 users signed up, I think there are only <10 or so actual active users on average.
By bot account, I just meant an account that’s used by a script but not one anyone actually logs in to. Specifically, this guy: https://eviltoast.org/u/lemmyfollower
It’s one thing I do like about Lemmy so far. If people mark accounts as bots when they’re created, it makes it really easy to just filter out all posts made by bots. In your profile settings, you can turn off posts by bots and everything will be a lot less noisy because a lot of bots are just copying posts from reddit right now.
I left it unchecked sunce I’m not a bot lol.
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I agree. In its current form, it’s somewhat more similar to something like twitter (or mastodon) vs reddit, at least for newer small instances. I doubt they’ll make it so everything gets federated everywhere by default since that’d be pretty bandwidth and disk intensive, but it’d make sense to at least be able to show those historical threads.
https://www.search-lemmy.com is trying to index all lemmy instances. https://github.com/marsara9/lemmy-search/issues/20 is open to track opening those search results inside your home lemmy instance. Maybe lemmy-ui or one of the other frontends will end up integrating with it so that you can search for anything and have it pull the results into the instance you’re using?
You’ve got it right, I agree is kind of weird, but it looks like it is by design (so far): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2825
I’m waiting for some sort of “remote” search, I think that’d solve a lot of weird issues if we could get results from more than just the local instance.
It’s infra that was already hosting other things. Lemmy got added to it because there were spare resources in the cluster.