Community is and always has been important. The key is and airways has been your ability to effectively curate your community. It is a cesspool if and only if you lack that ability

I hear you. Is much rather they shift progressive

Cool. Don’t meet their concerns then. It’s really important to feel morally superior while you’re politically irrelevant

What’s the real solution?

=) good point

I think neoliberal capitalism has gone insane

Lie down with dogs… Doesn’t really work in this case, they’re all dogs

When those people vote you need to know why. Or be snide, that’s worked out great for the Dems

I get that voting for a party that is funding Israel is hard for Muslims but seriously, voting for Trump expecting that support for Israel would be dialed down is just fucking stupid beyond belief. He stated his views about Palestine, FFS, you don’t have to guess

Agreed that the left had shifted right. Don’t agree that lesser evil voting is the reason for this.

I was sure that preventing tyranny was part of the deal?

New Zealander here. I work in IT. Americans seem to get on fine here in the IT sector. NZ is less right wing than the US but you wouldn’t earn as much and housing is expensive

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Exactly. Im gen x and I saw this with boomers vs everyone else. It’s just got worse with millenials then gen y. It’s the logical consequence of capitalism winning in the 80s. Those with capital are hoovering up everything

Yeah perhaps that’s why I didn’t make that claim

Holy strawman Batman!

Jesus you lot are so fucking tribal

Except the genocide

Biden followed Trump so it was fresh in everyone’s minds how awful he was

As a NZr, I couldnt care less. English is a juggernaut truck - it goes on regardless.

I think a contested primary would have been fiine so long as it was a well managed process, not a last minute scramble. If Harris was the best option, she’d be fine.