Well, they did learn from their mistakes. Most of the time these stories are like ‘it affects me now so I’m against it now’, but these people took that selfish starting point and unpacked all the fox propaganda and how it all happened

It is a cult; but some people leave cults

I get that we all have to be really sceptical of ‘reformed’ Magas. Most of them will just be rats fleeing the sinking ship, with no actual reflection or admitted culpability

But at the same time, I’ve marched with a block of skinhead ex-nazis who were violently opposed to racism now. People do change sometimes - people are able to unpick the propaganda they once bought into and grow

So scepticism, absolutely. But a life-long condemnation of anyone who ever bought into Fox News, without exception, is not the way to go

His great grandson Kermit Roosevelt III is alive today, and writes law novels

I got my last 10 bucks on you! No, don’t look at me! Run! No, don’t come over here…

We’ve never been as two-party solidified as the US and our system isn’t thaaat similar really imo

They elect the president by state, with senate and house seats separately

We elect our priminister by voting in mps in constituencies and then the leader whichever party if any has enough mps to vote down the other members is the prime minister

It’s more like, for the US, if the leader of whichever party wins the most members of Congress appoints the president but there’s way more congressmen and smaller constituencies and the senate isn’t a thing

We’ve had hung parliaments and coalition governments - both recently and in the 40s, 10s, etc - and that just doesn’t exist in the US

Don’t get me wrong, our version of FPTP is bollocks and leans toward a two party system, it sucks

But I don’t think it’s really comparable to the US

‘Orwells List’ is rightfully controversial. Im not gonna try and fully defend him siding with the British Goverment against anyone

But I do think to judge him fairly you gotta understand a couple things

• it was written in 1949

• it called out people who he thought were too closely tied to Stalin’s Russia

• the British Establishment at the time were nominally friendly with the Stalin government

• Orwell was unhappy with Soviet Communists due to their liberal collaboration and repression of anarchist Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War

• Orwell was always explicitly anti-stalinist

So I don’t think he’s immune from historical judgement, but I do think that modern conclusions of Orwell as a kind of ‘counter-revolutionary’ miss a lot of valuable context

He definitely wasn’t just informing on people whom he thought were ‘too socialist’, even if from a 2026 perspective he had more in common with the communists he was listing

And it’s worth noting that this was years before American McCarthyism and the associated witchhunt

Conflating a cross-dressing kink and trans people is not talking about a variety of spectrums, it’s just innacurate

One is sexually motivated, the other isn’t. It’s a clear line.

I agree that people are too complex to be put into boxes, but we can talk about issues without overlapping them with completely separate ideas because of surface level similarities like wearing clothing designed for a different sex than your biological one.

The spectrum of people with humiliation or cross dressing kicks and trans people are two circles that might overlap like a Venn diagram, but they’re fundamentally different and acting like they aren’t is reducing trans people to sexually motivated fetishists. Its just not accurate

Again, to be perfectly clear: someone with a bimbofication kink is not on the same ‘axis’ as a trans person, and I find the suggestion that they are to be problematic at best and bigoted at worst

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some people dress full time, but still have the same motivations as Noems’s husband

This is it really. This is not an accurate or realistic portrayal of trans people. It’s a fun house mirror of trans identities pushed by bigots

Look I agree with your main argument about people being varied and complicated. But there’s a couple things there that I think should be called out:

some are like Noem’s husband and it’s just a sex thing where they feel humiliation but want that

That’s not transitioning - he didn’t transition. A cross dressing or sissification or bimbofication fetish is one thing and we could debate about misogyny vs kinkshaming or whatever, but whatever way you slice it its different than transitioning.

Perhaps I’m too caught up on this, but the fact is that people often conflate transitioning with sexual motivations and fetishes inaccurately and in bad faith, and its not accurate

but still (at least subconsciously) wants to be humialted and that’s why she’s republican

Similar to the above, I don’t think there’s any suggestion she ‘wants to be humiliated’ rather than acting in her self interest as a wealthy white woman. And yeah possibly there’s internalised transphobia as well or something? But that’s different than wanting to be humiliated, which to me implies some kind of sexual thing. Which again, needs to be entirely divorced from transitioning in the discourse

Why should the lemmy.world instance of comicstrips be censored when you can make a new instance like “safestripsforgoodboysandgirls” instead of fucking over the larger community?

If most people here are in favour of it, then that’s why.

And then you can leave and make a new instance with your preferred amount of bigotry

If I step into your group of friends one evening and start an unprompted 4 hour lecture on 17th Century Agriculture, would it be censorship if you asked me to leave?

Small communities are allowed to curate themselves. It’s not censorship without that power dynamic, and on some level you yourself must understand this since your go-to comparison was ‘billion dollar fossil fuel advocates’

Because a comics sub on Lemmy is not the government or a church or any other powerful organisation that has any reach beyond itself

It’s a small community of people who are allowed to decide not to welcome bigotry

I think a different comic could put out something similar with just a few changes and make the point that you’re getting at

This one though, hard disagree. Like, the way the second woman is a ridiculous over masculine troll makes it seem that the butt of the joke isn’t the company using these objectifying policies but instead the woman herself, no longer an object of attraction for the man

If women are attractive, they’re trying to exploit you. And if they’re not seductive, they’re monstrous and masculine.

Rather than being a critique of the manufacture of non-intrinsic characteristics, the comic instead mocks those characteristics

And you’re maybe right in that I’m biased to read it that way because of the artist, but at the same time knowing how the artist normally portrays gender and sexual politics makes this the obvious reading and hos audience knows this

stop being so dramatic

disgusting law enforcement shill

🙄🙄

Don’t speed, don’t normalise speeding. Acab yes, but not because of speeding tickets lol

Speeding cars kill like, so many people. Am I also a disgusting law enforcement shill now?

Good strawman

It’s not a strawman, they’re directly responding to what you said. Regardless of how you voted

I didn’t finish watching it either, but I think the bare bones of it are covered under the Robotman heading of the Monty Wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_(comic_strip)

The United Feature Syndicate “asked Bill Watterson to incorporate the character into Calvin and Hobbes as a condition of syndication, but Watterson refused”

Often things like that are so they don’t have to explain it in multiple languages for international markets. Same booklet for everyone!

A voting test would just become voter suppression and electoral tampering. Even if it was implemented in good faith (doubt), it would still be full of implicit biases from whoever made it

And even if you kept it about really basic civil questions, that would disenfranchise people who had terrible educations or childhood situations - a demographic with a big overlap with poverty and race etc

i have a friend who was, for a brief time, the leading authority in the world in knocking over old people

This makes it sound like she out there pushing them over

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