• DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      This article says that Israel shut off the electricity, not bomb purely civilian targets.

      Did I miss that in the source?

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        In 2014, during the Gaza War, the Gaza Power Plant was hit several times by Israeli shelling.

        That would be civilian infrastructure.

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          In 2014, during the Gaza War

          Yeah that was during a war, though. That’s completely allowed in the playbook or are you going to say that literally anything Israel did in retaliation is a “civilian target”. Because if that’s the case, your definitions and understanding of this subject matter is biased and objectively wrong.

          Also, by the same virtue, Palestine has attacked civilian targets as well. You either say both sides are causing this conflict or neither are. You can’t always blame Israel when Palestine is doing the exact same thing.

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            Israel isnt retaliating to shit, they created this mess. the Palestinian militia groups locked in the open air prison of Gaza are the ones “retaliating”.

            You do know that 44% of the Gazan population is 14 or younger, right? Every shelling is killing kids, shutting off the electricity is killing kids. How many children do you have to shell in “self-defense”? Fuck off with that, Palestine is not doing “The exact same thing”.

            • DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              I recall a small little, tincy wincy attack from this terrorist group called “Hamas” that started this. Israel is no saint but Hamas, and Palestine supporting it, is 100% to blame for this. Sorry to remind you about that massacre.

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                This is a take that ignores a full 100 years of history - including the displacement of the entire Palestinian arab population. “Israel is no saint” - they are literally colonists engaging in a genocide of the Palestinians.

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                  1 year ago

                  By that logic, do all countries have a century long statute of limitations to engage in vengeful warfare because of “past conflicts”. Would you justify the massacre of white people because of slavery? Or would you allow native Americans to kill thousands because their ancestors were pushed away from their “land”? You do realize that every single country has fought for its territory - no flag is without sin.

                  I’m sorry your side isn’t willing to budge on this issue but you can’t engage in this discourse without a nuanced understanding of real history and honest critical thinking. You’re letting others tell you what to feel and look stupid for it.

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                    By that logic, do all countries have a century long statute of limitations to engage in vengeful warfare because of “past conflicts”. Would you justify the massacre of white people because of slavery

                    This is a false equivalency, Israel is actively engaging in settler-colonialism and genocide. These people who have been expelled from their home 76 years ago are actively suffering for it, it’s a living memory. Are you comfortable letting “your side” use Hamas’s attack on Israel as a justification to engage in ethnic cleansing ?

                    Or would you allow native Americans to kill thousands because their ancestors were pushed away from their “land”?

                    I would actually support giving land back to native Americans in the US/canada. If they started attacking white people to take land back, i wouldn’t use that as an excuse to decimate their population. It’s possible to have a nuanced understanding of a situation, and still not side with genocide.

                    You do realize that every single country has fought for its territory - no flag is without sin.

                    And it’s possible to recognize and be critical of that, while also being critical of an ethnostate that is actively engaging in the decimation of the Palestinians that used to live there.

                    I’m sorry your side isn’t willing to budge on this issue but you can’t engage in this discourse without a nuanced understanding of real history and honest critical thinking. You’re letting others tell you what to feel and look stupid for it.

                    Seriously? It sounds like you’re projecting an idea of “my side” onto me. Im sorry you aren’t able to engage in nuanced discourse without projecting and attacking my intelligence.

          • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOP
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            1 year ago

            You asked a question. I gave you the answer. You don’t like the answer and for some reason believe you have to defend your presumptions. You don’t. It’s okay to be wrong. That’s how we learn. Also, I like your name.